Not convinced "Preppers" would be much better off

I've been thinking about doing some "Prepping", and the more I think about it the less I feel it would make much of a difference. I'm sure some people have prepped to the point they would have a lot more than others but there is only so much you can store under your house before supplies run out, and you need to replenish

As a middle class American I am used to 3 pretty good meals a day. A variety of fresh fruits, vegetables, and meats. If this was instantly cut off from me, and all I had was canned foods and game I could kill, I would be miserable, lose a decent amount of weight. I don't even weigh that much (160), and I'm not overweight.

Now apply that to an obese family of "Preppers" used to 3 gluttonous meals, luxurious upper middle class lifestyle now confined in a small area. It doesn't really seem practical no matter how much you prep.

I could see if you were already self sustainable on your own land before shit goes haywire but to have to instantaneously convert to this lifestyle, I don't think there is a big advantage in "Prepping" hardcore.

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I think you'd be better off stealing other people's shit like a band of roving marauders

No need to be a nut job, but a few weeks worth of supplies makes sense for anyone. A hundred bucks worth of beans and rice and a few rain barrels and you're set for any realistic emergency. Phone Post 3.0

Can't be a terrible idea to do a little bit, not that i have.

But just something to hold you over incase something goes wrong.

Stuff to keep you warm if it gets cold where you live, food, usable water.

^ that. if you 'prep' enough to wait out the first month or two, when the majority of desperate people are killed off by starvation, murder or disease, you will give yourself a much better chance of surviving long term.

What scenario exactly are they "prepping" for? That's the silly part, name a disaster wherein you'd have to hide under your home for 2 years shitting in a Dunkin Donuts box but you'd still want to live through? Full scale ground assault on the US? Never happen. Nuclear fallout?

I'm just not seeing the upside here. Phone Post 3.0

So many shades of grey here.  Preparing for a few days or weeks in the event of a natural disaster is pretty much common sense, preparing for the zombie apocalypse, not so much.

It would be nice if everyone had a few weeks of food and water. That way every time there was a water problem or flu in the news, the store weren't picked clean by unprepared people. Phone Post 3.0

We all remember the gourmet canner on Doomsday Preppers where she happily proclaimed that she'd gain weight in the Appocolypse!

They even showed her doing some mediocre bjj. Phone Post 3.0

I grew up in the hills of colrain. you get a 3 foot snowstorm you can be without electricity for a week and you aren't driving 20 miles to greenfield to buy anything at the local store when your roads are basically shut down for a week.

A certain amount of food and water is a good idea, so is fuel and either a working wood stove or some kind of small charcoal cooker for cooking food. Phone Post 3.0

Curtis_E_Bare - 

So many shades of grey here.  Preparing for a few days or weeks in the event of a natural disaster is pretty much common sense, preparing for the zombie apocalypse, not so much.


yep.



And depending where you are, it shit does hit the fan you could be pretty much fucked regardless

I like the calm logic in this thread.

Any type of "SHTF" event that most peppers are geared up for would obviously require a change in lifestyle for everyone. I would think most people understand this and accept it as fact.

Are you saying that because you won't be able to endlessly live in the lap of luxury that it isn't worth storing up a few things in case of some natural disaster or other emergency? Having something is far better than nothing. Phone Post 3.0

AlchemyIronworks - What scenario exactly are they "prepping" for? That's the silly part, name a disaster wherein you'd have to hide under your home for 2 years shitting in a Dunkin Donuts box but you'd still want to live through? Full scale ground assault on the US? Never happen. Nuclear fallout?

I'm just not seeing the upside here. Phone Post 3.0

I'm thinking natural disaster type events. Here in California, the only thing I'm really worried about is a major earthquake. If it happens, people go nuts.

I told this story before but it's relevant here: Power went out in the early evening. My daughter got a call from her friend who was shopping at Walmart. She said immediately after the power outage, idiots started looting. Shitbags aren't even waiting a few days anymore - they jump to animal mode right away.

In the event of a major emergency you can hold up at the house with some basic supplies and knowhow while avoiding the idiots.

Curtis_E_Bare - 

So many shades of grey here.  Preparing for a few days or weeks in the event of a natural disaster is pretty much common sense, preparing for the zombie apocalypse, not so much.


The zombie apocalypse could happen god damnit!

Oh, man. MY SIDE OF THE MOUNTAIN! I spent my life between about 10 and 14 wondering "Why the fuck don't I go live in the woods?" because of that book. 

A lot of people go way overboard on that shit because they get off on Apocaporn. Being prepared to ride out a week to a month of emergency is just common sense, though. The grid is precarious and natural dissasters happen more and more often. Long term collapse, your survival will have more to do with luck of where you are and your ability to get along with others.  

Tiresias -


I read "My Side of the Mountain", so I'll be fine.

I loved that book as a kid. Phone Post 3.0

Having useful skills and experience would be a lot more use long term than a cellar full of canned food. And antibiotics and painkillers would be the currency of the apocalypse, not gold. Phone Post 3.0

When I was prepping, my goal was not to be able to live for two years on my own. My goal was to be able to hunker down for a few weeks until the initial panic died down a bit. I did NOT want to be on the road trying to evacuate with the masses. It would be too easy to get stranded and/or robbed. Phone Post 3.0

I'm not saying that "prepping" isn't a good idea, but imagine months of no pizza, angus burgers, beer, porn, OG!!!!, etc.

I mean seriously, just surviving. No electronicss. Just bartering, eating rice/beans/water. WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!! Americans are NOT prepared for that, no matter what preparation they have done! Middle class Americans would not adjust to this well, if at all, sanely.