Agree op
How can that round be scored the same as any of the rounds in the Watson catone fight.
ChaosOverkill -
The same judge (Tirelli) who gave out two 10-8's in the Iaquinta vs Lee fight was judging the Overeem fight too. Even more ridiculous
okay, that's fucked up.
The only "issue" with more 10-8 rounds is that it may result in more draws in three round fights, which I am actually ok with. An even fight that could go either way SHOULD be a draw in my opinion.
Round one fit the criteria for a 10-8 in every conceivable way. There is no consistency in the way MMA judges score fights and I really think it's a major problem.
forrestfan -ChaosOverkill -
The same judge (Tirelli) who gave out two 10-8's in the Iaquinta vs Lee fight was judging the Overeem fight too. Even more ridiculous
okay, that's fucked up.
Yeah, I can't get a read on this judging at all anymore. It just seems like pin the tail on the Donkey shit to me.
AlexanderTheGOAT -TwentyNineTwentyEight -If that's true then there simply is no such thing as a 10-7
I can see it being a 10-9. This isn't boxing. In MMA a fighter has to be dominant throughout the entrire rnd. to receive a 10-8. It was a solid 10-8.5 if there were half points allowed but there isn't. Giving Reem a 10-9 isn't very controversial.
I did a Big John McCarthy Judging Seminar and I forgot which fight he showed as an example of a 10-7 round and I remember personally thinking that the fight should've been stopped, but wasn't. Fighter A damn near died that round.
Op is correcto. MMA scoring criteria is simply nonexistent
TwentyNineTwentyEight -That's exactly the way I see it though.AlexanderTheGOAT -TwentyNineTwentyEight -If that's true then there simply is no such thing as a 10-7
I can see it being a 10-9. This isn't boxing. In MMA a fighter has to be dominant throughout the entrire rnd. to receive a 10-8. It was a solid 10-8.5 if there were half points allowed but there isn't. Giving Reem a 10-9 isn't very controversial.
I did a Big John McCarthy Judging Seminar and I forgot which fight he showed as an example of a 10-7 round and I remember personally thinking that the fight should've been stopped, but wasn't. Fighter A damn near died that round.
A round that reasonably could have been stopped should be a 10-7, a dominant round should be a 10-8 and a relatively close round should be 10-9.
I just can't wrap my head around the idea that anyone could consider a system that scores reem/Mir round one the same as any of the rounds in bones/Gustafson as a legitimate system.
And it's not right to only worry about it when it affects the outcome, it's an issue regardless.
Really odd considering they gave Hester rd 3 against Enz. Sure Hester won the round, but it wasn't even his more dominate round.
mghan44 -It's hard to say, really. I would have scored it 10-8, but sometimes almost getting a finish isn't enough. It depends on the fight.TwentyNineTwentyEight -Bullshit.
I can see it being a 10-9. This isn't boxing. In MMA a fighter has to be dominant throughout the entrire rnd. to receive a 10-8. It was a solid 10-8.5 if there were half points allowed but there isn't. Giving Reem a 10-9 isn't very controversial.
Reem was milliseconds away from a finish and outlanded Mir like 50-1. How can you say that wasn't a completely dominant round. If that wasn't a 10-8 I don't know what is.
The fact that a round like that gets scored the same as close rounds is a HUGE issue in MMA.
If Overeem almost finished but the rest of the round was very competitive, I would have scored it 10-9. But it wasn't.
MasterofMartialArts -But that's not what happened. Mir generated next to no offense and reem nearly finished him and landed tons of clean shots.mghan44 -It's hard to say, really. I would have scored it 10-8, but sometimes almost getting a finish isn't enough. It depends on the fight.TwentyNineTwentyEight -Bullshit.
I can see it being a 10-9. This isn't boxing. In MMA a fighter has to be dominant throughout the entrire rnd. to receive a 10-8. It was a solid 10-8.5 if there were half points allowed but there isn't. Giving Reem a 10-9 isn't very controversial.
Reem was milliseconds away from a finish and outlanded Mir like 50-1. How can you say that wasn't a completely dominant round. If that wasn't a 10-8 I don't know what is.
The fact that a round like that gets scored the same as close rounds is a HUGE issue in MMA.
If Overeem almost finished but the rest of the round was very competitive, I would have scored it 10-9. But it wasn't.
I don't think there is a REASONABLE case for a 10-9.
There was nothing competitive about round 1.