You are preaching to the choir. I don’t think there is any reasonable argument to put Lebron above Jordan. But the fact that Lebron is even in the same stratosphere as Jordan speaks well of him. Not many guys are in the position to be compared favorably to Jordan in any post-season statistic.
My point was claiming that Lebron is ‘soft’ or not ‘clutch’ is silly. He may not be as ‘hard’ or ‘clutch’ as the greatest of all-time, but you don’t lead a team to 10 championship series (including 8 consecutive) and win four of them without being a pretty hard bastard who makes clutch plays.
I think most of the ‘Lebron is GOAT’ people fall in one of two categories.
Millennials and Zers who lack first-hand experience of watching the 80s-90s NBA. Lebron is the best player in their lifetime, so they think that means he is the GOAT.
Media hacks and cable sports talking heads, whose job is to hype up the flavor of the month and stir up controversy.
Regarding #1, that is not unique to younger generations. I know plenty of Gen Xers who wouldn’t put Bill Russell in top 20, or guys like George Mikan, Dolph Schayes, or Bob Pettit in their top 100 because they don’t know anyone from the pre-1970s era other than Wilt and the top three or four guys on those 60s Celtics dynasties.
Basketball related question. Has anyone seen those ridiculous YouTube shorts/reels/tiktok clips of people playing basketball, clearly travelling, and then it asks whether it’s legal. Then the comments are divided. Some claiming it’s legit, others saying clean,. Some saying travel.
And then there are the ones with players doing legit moves such as Kevin mchales up and under, and morons claiming travel.
The nba rules r fucked
These new stats they come up with are dumb as hell.
“Tied for third-youngest player to score 25pts and 9ast with 40% shooting including three left-handed layups and less than six free throws.”
Yep they need to define it clearly instead of leaving it open to broad interpretations. Like 2 dribble maximum or the shot has to be taken within 2 seconds from receiving the pass. They’ll never do that though obviously - they want players stuffing the stat sheet.
The issue is the ‘gathering’ rule in the modern nba and when the 2 steps officially starts, as well as things like the ‘Harden step back’ that allows jump stops followed by reverse steps.
There are things that used to be travel and are now allowed, so it’s great click bait for content creators to watch the arguments flow.
That’s before we get to the superstar rules that have been around for decades. If you’re a big star doing something cool there is no travel …. aka the Shawn Kemp rule….