I've only seen a handful of the marquee matches from pancrase. Can any old school fan clue us in on how often eye pokes happened? 
Interested 
No old school fans left?
Kneeblock - Very seldom actually because most strikes were looping and aimed for the jaw. Bas was the only one who consistently threw palm jabs, but he did them correctly with his fingers curled inward.Amazing isn't it That with closed fist striking disallowed and open hand strikes allowed there were few eye pokes
I do remember Frank getting eye poked once, but generally it was rare.
Very few, I saw many events as well and saw very few eye pokes, fun promotion.
James Thorpe - Very few, I saw many events as well and saw very few eye pokes, fun promotion.Ever wonder why palm strikes aren't used on the ground as gnp?
Imo palm or ridge hand strikes would be more effective than punches while youre wrapped up with your opponent
LyotoBundy - They pulled their hands way back, and many tucked their fingers in. I know Bas did for the most part.One would think today's "pro" fighters could keep their fingers curled in
James Thorpe - Very few, I saw many events as well and saw very few eye pokes, fun promotion.Same here
LyotoBundy -Imo 1 warning for extended finger jabbing or pawing regardless if there's a poke.kingkoopa -Maybe the gloves are restrictive with the thick wraps? I don't know, man, but something needs changing.LyotoBundy - They pulled their hands way back, and many tucked their fingers in. I know Bas did for the most part.One would think today's "pro" fighters could keep their fingers curled in
2nd occurance is a point deduction regardless if there's a poke
eye pokes are not common in worked fights.
Most fighters tucked their fingers far back into their hands which made eye pokes pretty rare.
It's the human physiology; when you strike with your palm, the fingers move out of the way, so they don't hit the target. When one extends the hand, in order to feel, gauge where the opponent is, fingers automatically spread out, so that you can feel whats there.
Retracting the fingers while feeling out the space around you, posting etc, is counter intuitive to how the human body works.
The pokes reveal the nature of what the guy was doing. If one aims to strike, a poke cannot happen, because the fingers retract (fist) or move out of the way (palm strikes), to avoid damage.
So the intent is what's at play. In Pancrase the palm was used for striking, it had a different use. Today guys strike with the fist, so the palm/hand keeps it's natural function of feeling out.
I can only recall two. De Luca and one of the shamrocks.
Funny, I am wearing my pancrase shirt today =]
Ziga - It's the human physiology; when you strike with your palm, the fingers move out of the way, so they don't hit the target. When one extends the hand, in order to feel, gauge where the opponent is, fingers automatically spread out, so that you can feel whats there.I have no doubt this is the case.
Retracting the fingers while feeling out the space around you, posting etc, is counter intuitive to how the human body works.
The pokes reveal the nature of what the guy was doing. If one aims to strike, a poke cannot happen, because the fingers retract (fist) or move out of the way (palm strikes), to avoid damage.
So the intent is what's at play. In Pancrase the palm was used for striking, it had a different use. Today guys strike with the fist, so the palm/hand keeps it's natural function of feeling out.
That being said hand wraps and gloves tend to close the hand more when relaxed. Many times the fighters have fully extended fingers which is not a trait if a relaxed hand.
It's a bit ironic that open hand only with no gloves had less pokes.
as "professionals" they should be expected to not extend there open hand. Point deduction should be instant regardless of poke. It's extremely dangerous to have outstretched hands with straightened fingers, regardless of intent.
Happiness Bunny - I can only recall two. De Luca and one of the shamrocks.Pix?
Funny, I am wearing my pancrase shirt today =]
kingkoopa -Ziga - It's the human physiology; when you strike with your palm, the fingers move out of the way, so they don't hit the target. When one extends the hand, in order to feel, gauge where the opponent is, fingers automatically spread out, so that you can feel whats there.I have no doubt this is the case.
Retracting the fingers while feeling out the space around you, posting etc, is counter intuitive to how the human body works.
The pokes reveal the nature of what the guy was doing. If one aims to strike, a poke cannot happen, because the fingers retract (fist) or move out of the way (palm strikes), to avoid damage.
So the intent is what's at play. In Pancrase the palm was used for striking, it had a different use. Today guys strike with the fist, so the palm/hand keeps it's natural function of feeling out.
That being said hand wraps and gloves tend to close the hand more when relaxed. Many times the fighters have fully extended fingers which is not a trait if a relaxed hand.
It's a bit ironic that open hand only with no gloves had less pokes.
as "professionals" they should be expected to not extend there open hand. Point deduction should be instant regardless of poke. It's extremely dangerous to have outstretched hands with straightened fingers, regardless of intent.
We agree in our points. I must admit I like the irony you pointed out, but dislike its results. Extended fingers pushing away, or filling out, too often end up in the opponents eye.
They are worked fights.
Funaki had two legit fights in his life, one was against Braga, which was a "draw" and another one agains Rickson Gracie.
Nobuhiko Takada's first real fight was against Rickson Gracie.(off the topic)
bas vs funaki sure is brutal for a 'worked' fight.
jcblass - eye pokes are not common in worked fights.
Thank you for not contributing anything of merit to this thread but taking the time out to let us know that you're an uninformed idiot.