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paul bradley and the rest of the story

Haole - 

 I mean, you had people getting things like staph infections, which are very contagious, and they never got kicked off the show in the past. It came as a total shock.

 

This is one of the most profoundly stupid things I have ever read in my life.

Staph = a skin infection that goes away

Herpes = a lifelong viral disease

Did this moron really think that a company would expose themselves to the liability of knowingly exposing 15+ contracted employees to a lifelong viral disease?


 

Exactly.

Do any of you dumbasses know that 25-30% of the population has the sexually transmitted simplex? The vast majority don't even know it.

If you have EVER had a cold sore then you have herpes and will have it forever. 80+% of the population has the non-sexually transmitted form.

It is basically a skin rash that causes no other problems besides having itchy skin. A staph infection on the other hand can KILL YOU.

P.S. and this is coming from a person (me) who is a germaphobe!

LEARN SOMETHING:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herpes_simplex

I wonder if dana's decision would have been different if he wouldn't of had a boring lay n pray fight?

I dont think the fight had anything to do with the decision. Dana didn't want to do it, but you gotta know Dana is going to protect his biggest investment (Rampage) Whether or not it can be transfered I don't know I am not a doctor but the fact there may be a possibility I don't blame the UFC for not wanting to risk it with Rampage and Forrest on the show, and hell I wouldn't be surprised if Ramapage didn't pull Dana aside and tell him I don't want him on the team with that thing on his neck.

good point

i tend to take offense to someone who knowingly EXPONENTIALLY increases my chance of contracting an incurable, permanent disease. call me stingy i guess

I said this on the other thread. Paul is a great guy and a great competitor. I have had the chance to train with him and he is a class act.

He got stuck with the Mat Herpes and he has to deal with it. It is a pretty common thing though.

I think its a pretty bum deal to have doctor clear you of passing it on and to get cut.

See also - scrumpox.

I felt really bad for the guy. He put his entire life on the line to get on the show, fought and worked his ass off and then Dana cuts him for something as shit as a few pimples on his neck.

It's absolute fucking bullshit. And even more bullshit that they wouldn't offer him a contract.

"What went through your head when Dana said you were going to have to go home? He seemed to say it rather bluntly."

Lamest part of the entire interview. Typical hypersensitivity. How else was Dana supposed to say it? He said it. He apologized. He was rather nice about it but firm. 

TheLurKing - bryanand - Is he the guy that had the shitty dry hump win in the round of 32? You know, the turtle fucking comparison fight.

If he is, then Dana is a piece of shit.


Yup, Paul's the guy Dana was bitching about. If you watch his fight on the 1st episode, you can even hear Dana openly root for the other guy by saying,"C'mon, Reggie. Pull something out. I don't want to see this shit every time this kid fights. He'll lay here and punch you in the kidneys for fucking ten minutes. Oh, my fucking god."

If you don't like the fact that he was sent home then blame the litigious society we now live in, not Dana White.

If the guy had medicine that could keep it gone for 12 months why didn't he take it before he got on the plane for Vegas?

Haole - 
Haulport - 

LEARN SOMETHING:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herpes_simplex


 Fucking awesome how you make two posts and in the second one you provide a source that refutes the first one. brilliant!


 I have come to learn one thing about you Haole: since u can't possibly be as stupid as your posts, you must just be the disingenuous a-hole troll that everyone thinks you are......



 

"wouldnt roll with him ever"



Daren, you are a tool !!    I am sure you have rolled with many guys that had this at one time or another.



Two days of treatment and he is cleared by doctors. This has happened in the Iowa wrestling room many times.



The fact is it is treatable, and it only takes a couple days to get it under control.



Wouldn't roll with him ever... what a silly comment.

Haole - 

 Novak - did you just try the 'it's common so he should have been allowed to expose others to it' argument?

is that what you meant to infer? lol

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Exactly, Haole. I wonder the same thing. Perhaps Novak has forgotten about this outbreak of 24 wrestlers (from 10 teams) after competing at a multi-state conference where they received the gift that seems to keep on giving. I guess that's understandable since only one of the athletes was from Iowa.

Radio Iowa News 

http://www.radioiowa.com/gestalt/go.cfm?objectid=7A1FB81C-C7E0-4C09-E7F8EEFE1F0EF711

Disease could have serious side effects for wrestlers

by Bob Fisher KRIB Mason City

At least one north-central Iowa wrestler has been affected by a widespread outbreak of herpes gladiatorum in the state of Minnesota. The Minnesota State High School League has suspended wrestling in the state for the next week to try and control the outbreak.

Cerro Gordo County Department of Public Health Disease Prevention Specialist Betty Krones says it is a virus that is similar to the one that produces cold sores. She says it is a herpes virus that affects the skin found in athletes that compete in close contract. Krones says herpes gladiatorum can start out as a rash and gradually get worse. She says the area may start out as a reddened area, turning into a blistered rash that will eventually scab over in seven to ten days.

People affected may also end up having a fever or muscle aches as well. Krones says if a person thinks they have herpes gladiatorum, they should immediately see their doctor. Krones says since herpes gladiatorum is spread through skin-to-skin contact, people who have it should make sure they protect other people from the virus. Krones says the virus is easily spread and could cause some serious side effects, especially if it gets into someone's eye.

Minnesota officials say 24 cases of the virus have been reported by ten teams, including Kasson-Mantorville, a team that two weekends ago participated in the Osage Duals tournament. Clear Lake wrestling coach Gary Weber confirms that one of his wrestlers has missed the past week and is being treated for the disease. The coaches for the other teams involved, Osage, Emmetsburg, and Independence, have not reported any of their wrestlers having symptoms.

Minnesota has banned competitions and direct contact between wrestlers in practice until February 6th. Minnesota state officials decided to halt wrestling activities to try and control the current outbreak, allow time to diagnose new cases, and prevent disqualifications during the upcoming tournament series leading up to the Minnesota state tournament February 28th through March 3rd.

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I have yet to run across an article stating that after 2 days of meducation the infection is no longer contagious and will not spread to others. If someone has a link they can share I would appreciate it.

Also, the condition of his neck before going to the doctor appears to be well into the progression of the contagious period since this thing can spread to others before any physical symptoms are present.

Just because Paul didn't think it was a big deal doesn't mean others would feel the same. To him, it makes sense that the risk is worth the reward because he didn't have a choice of whether or not to have this condition. He is stuck with it from now on. The others were not.

These guys were assembled for a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to compete for a six-figure contract with the UFC. Their performance during this six week period was the ONLY key they were allowed to have with them to help open that next door to getting to live their dream.

The second doctor DW had check Paul was initially unavailable and since time was of the essence, a general dermatologist was consulted. It wasn't the "next few days" the coaches, producers and others were concerned about; it was the next 5-6 weeks Paul would be spending in the identical environment where the chances of additional flare ups was quite possible. The second doctor was more familiar with the dynamics of the competition than the first doctor was (hours spent in the gym each day, amount of skin-on-skin contact, living conditions, stress, physical exertion of the athletes on a daily basis, environment the fighters are subjected to, etc) and it was his opinion that allowing Paul to continue was a mistake because it would put others at risk, unfairly.

Paul caught this from someone else, with no say so whatsover. I'm sure if there had been a way for him to have prevented contracting the virus he absolutely would have. Paul's dream was no more important or unimportant than anyone else's and he has said himself that he understands why DW did what he did. If an outbreak of this condition can cause Minnesota to suspend high school wrestling in the state in order to try and control the outbreak then I cannot understand why some regard this form of herpes to be "no big deal." 

Just my thoughts...

Cindy

 


 

 

 

 



" Novak - did you just try the 'it's common so he should have been allowed to expose others to it' argument?


is that what you meant to infer? lol- Haole "




 


 


Not all all...  I know how serious it is .   He said he wouldnt EVER roll with someone that had it.


 


I can understand that if a doctor hasnt cleared  the atthlete.


 


Many colleges test on a case by case basis-- University of Iowa tests and treats it right away if an athlete has it.. They then have to be cleared to compete or practice.Sometimes it is a couple days sometimes a bit longer.


At nationals when the wrestlers weigh in there is a skin check by doctors.


 


I am not saying that Paul Bradley should or should not have been able to compete--it sounds like two different doctors had seperate opinions that didnt agree. I can respect that--Dana's is the only one that counts.


 


But Daren says he wouldnt EVER roll with that guy--  that is silly,silly.


 

Looking out for the other 15 guys is understandable, but how they supposedly denied him from the UFC afterwards is pretty messed up. Whatever though, hope he does well in the elite xc

 ^^^ Either there has been a mistake or someone with croth rot triangled the lad! Whichever, I wish Paul the best.

Cindy