...he beats Mosley convincingly(KO preferably)then beats Pac decisively.I think if he doe's this he is in the discussion of best non heavy of this ere,maybe ever.I said in the discussion not GOAT.What say you?
Absolutely. I think Pacman is in the same discussion if he beats PBF. The winner of those two (Everyone wants this fight, it must happen) is certainly the best of this era.
NoPlacebo - Absolutely. I think Pacman is in the same discussion if he beats PBF. The winner of those two (Everyone wants this fight, it must happen) is certainly the best of this era.
...totally agree,if Pac wins he might just be THE MAN.A rematch(and maybe rubber match)would really be great for boxing.
Nope. He'd have to beat Mosley, Pac, and Paul Williams to even get his foot in the door.
But there is nothing he could do to pass someone like Ray Robinson.
Kostya Tszyu would have beaten Floyd and Manny.
^I don't think so.
Floyd would be top 5 if he beats both guys
imutated - the welterweight stars of the 80's would have tore PBF up. PBF has no toughness in him. imagine PBF against leonard, hearns, hagler, etc.
Those weren't welterweights dude...
Floyd is not in the discussion yet.
If he beats Mosley, he's at the fringe of the discussion.
If he beats Mosley and Pac, he's in the discussion.
If he beats Mosley, Pac, and then beats the best at 154, then he's top 5 ever.
voorhees -imutated - the welterweight stars of the 80's would have tore PBF up. PBF has no toughness in him. imagine PBF against leonard, hearns, hagler, etc.Those weren't welterweights dude...
Ray Leonard and Thomas Hearns weren't welterweights?
Wat?
I'd have to see a convincing video of him beating Ray Robinson in a Fight Night Round 4 simulation before entertaining the possibility.
Isn't Moseley like 40 years old. He can't beat pbf even in his dreams. I hope he does he is too old.
drjim - Isn't Moseley like 40 years old. He can't beat pbf even in his dreams. I hope he does he is too old.
So what if Mosley is old. He's the only fighter I know that within a 10 year span is still in his prime DOMINATING fighters. He was the same fighter when he beat De La Hoya twice. When De La Hoya was in his prime. People are counting out Mosley way to quickly. People are like "PACQUAIO PACMAN OMG" instead of wanting an overrated Pacquiao get destroyed by Mayweather wouldn't you wanna watch a TOP welterweight in his prime fight PBF. I would.
I hope Mosley can win or even put up a fight but i don't think he can. This bout could set boxing back another few years. You might even fall asleep by the 7th round.
drjim - I hope Mosley can win or even put up a fight but i don't think he can. This bout could set boxing back another few years. You might even fall asleep by the 7th round.
Shane Mosley knows he has to be aggressive just like in Margarito fight. Or this will end up being just like the Cotto fight. Where he counter punched him to a UD.
there was talk before clottey that pac was in the debate for greatest of all time p4p. so if floyd beats mosely and pac then he obviuosly is the best of this era and top 10 all time
DannyOcean - Floyd is not in the discussion yet.He's in the discussion already by virtue of simply being undefeated, but I agree he solidifies being in the forefront of the discussion if he beats both of the above.
If he beats Mosley, he's at the fringe of the discussion.
If he beats Mosley and Pac, he's in the discussion.
If he beats Mosley, Pac, and then beats the best at 154, then he's top 5 ever.
pharochuck - there was talk before clottey that pac was in the debate for greatest of all time p4p. so if floyd beats mosely and pac then he obviuosly is the best of this era and top 10 all time
Until Pacquiao fights and wins against someone creditable and in his prime. He's not the best P4P fighter in the world. I can go in the ring with a washed up Ali and Robinson and win. Doesn't mean I'm the best P4P. Pacquiao should accept the JMM 3 fight instead of being a pussy and going after Margarito. If Pacquiao can knock out JMM or beat him in a dominating fashion. In alot of people's eyes he'll be #2. #1 if Pacquiao fought him before Mayweather destroyed Marquez.
JMM vs Pacquiao 3 at 130-142. Everyone besides the Filipinos knows JMM won both fights.
Again i don't think this win against Mosley should move PBF up in the rankings. Margarito landed jabs against him and PBF will land a lot more of them. 38 is very old for a lighter weight boxer. I remember some friends and I went to the closed circuit fight to watch a 38 yr old Ali get his ass kicked by Larry Holmes.
winner of pacman/pbf is the greatest boxer of the generation