Let's be real every single fighter workin his was up the ladder is on peds an you think the fighter that held the WW strap for how many years, wasnt on peds?? The one out wrestling wrestlers, never tired in championship rounds, had an high gut like a body builder, gyno tits, AND left the ufc with no reason given as soon as they start OOC testing? CUM ON 
2breath2feel - Let's be real every single fighter workin his was up the ladder is on peds an you think the fighter that held the WW strap for how many years, wasnt on peds?? The one out wrestling wrestlers, never tired in championship rounds, had an high gut like a body builder, gyno tits, AND left the ufc with no reason given as soon as they start OOC testing? CUM ON
It's called, genetics! Georges is innocent until proven guilty, you uneducated dolt. Lemme trump up some BS against you. I'll say you're an dick sucker. I'll base this allegation on your spelling of the word, "come". Prove to me that you're not a dick sucker. See how that works?
I believe GSP has done peds, and I'm not attacking him at all. I love the guy as a fighter and human being. If he did, he did it because everyone else did and it put him on a level playing field...just like cycling in the 90's and 00's. I also don't think it's a coincidence that the time that GSP voluntarily went through VADA testing, he was taken brought to the cusp of defeat by a guy who has been a definitively inferior fighter to him over the years. I know, I know...knee surgery, age, etc... I believe what I believe.
I still do support GSP. I applaud his efforts to clean up the sport, which I do not think are insincere. I think GSP wants to be clean, but knows he can't be on the top of the mountain if he is clean, while everybody else carries on with the status quo, as we currently know it.
Dookieshoes -I'm guessing you are either very young or very naive. You are definitely ignorant to assume that all members of an mma forum are uneducated on this topic. I don't think you will find a place on the web of people closer to the source. Just putting my 2 cents in, but it is definitely an educated a experienced opinion. Hgh gut is not genetics by the way. It's very unnatural2breath2feel - Let's be real every single fighter workin his was up the ladder is on peds an you think the fighter that held the WW strap for how many years, wasnt on peds?? The one out wrestling wrestlers, never tired in championship rounds, had an high gut like a body builder, gyno tits, AND left the ufc with no reason given as soon as they start OOC testing? CUM ON
It's called, genetics! Georges is innocent until proven guilty, you uneducated dolt. Lemme trump up some BS against you. I'll say you're an dick sucker. I'll base this allegation on your spelling of the word, "come". Prove to me that you're not a dick sucker. See how that works?
2breath2feel -Dookieshoes -I'm guessing you are either very young or very naive. You are definitely ignorant to assume that all members of an mma forum are uneducated on this topic. I don't think you will find a place on the web of people closer to the source. Just putting my 2 cents in, but it is definitely an educated a experienced opinion. Hgh gut is not genetics by the way. It's very unnatural2breath2feel - Let's be real every single fighter workin his was up the ladder is on peds an you think the fighter that held the WW strap for how many years, wasnt on peds?? The one out wrestling wrestlers, never tired in championship rounds, had an high gut like a body builder, gyno tits, AND left the ufc with no reason given as soon as they start OOC testing? CUM ON
It's called, genetics! Georges is innocent until proven guilty, you uneducated dolt. Lemme trump up some BS against you. I'll say you're an dick sucker. I'll base this allegation on your spelling of the word, "come". Prove to me that you're not a dick sucker. See how that works?
It's an accusation, not a fact. You seem to have those things mixed up. IMO, Georges doesn't have an HGH gut.
The "eye test" is such bullshit, GSP had a six pack when he was like 12.
If all you got is your own "eye test" for "evidence" and you cling to it like a fanatic, no one but other lunatics can take you seriously.
Hopefully, if there is any justice in this world, what many educated fans know will be uncovered and everyone will realize that every top-level fighter uses some form of PED and GSP is no exception.
Needlemover - Why do people allege GSP took PEDS?.
There is no evidence of GSP cheating. The guy trains like crazy with his fitness.
I guess accusing him of cheating seems to be a popular throw away line by the general mma public who probably don't have any real basis behind it.
Georges may think (or know) some of his opponents were cheating, but still he doesn't come out and name them - but yet there are a lot of uninformed armchair critics with no inside knowledge dropping his name. Wtf.
According to a new report on MMAJunkie, St. Pierre will indeed go forward with enhanced drug testing conducted by VADA and will be tested by the Nevada State Athletic Commission, while Hendricks will only participate in the NSAC’s testing. Hendricks’s apparent refusal to cooperate with the VADA program raised our suspicions at first, but it turns out there’s another side to the story, and it’s one that paints the champ in an unflattering light.
The UFC set up the call with the fighters’ managers, trainer Firas Zahabi, UFC officials and [NSAC Executive Director Keith] Kizer on the basis that St-Pierre said he would pay for additional screening, Kizer said. The promotion had approached the NSAC about the program after hearing the commission would use it in advance of a WBO title bout between welterweight champ Tim Bradley and Juan Manuel Marquez on Oct. 12 in Las Vegas, Kizer said.
The program, which was detailed by the NSAC during the call, is run by a WADA-accredited lab in Salt Lake City. The NSAC currently employs out-of-competition testing, but the new lab moves closer to what Kizer calls “enhanced drug testing,” or what many say is Olympic-style testing.
In Bradley and Marquez’s case, promoter Top Rank agreed to pay the costs associated with random tests and have the results forwarded to the NSAC. In St-Pierre and Hendricks’ case, however, it was undecided who would foot the bill on the WADA program, which the commission doesn’t cover, Kizer said.
The two sides split on who would pay for the testing. St-Pierre’s camp expressed a preference to use VADA, which they said had agreed to partially pay for costs, according to Kizer…When informed of the WADA program’s cost, St-Pierre’s camp said they preferred to use VADA.
“I made it quite clear that if you guys want to do additional testing on your own, that’s fine,” Kizer said. “But if you’re serious about it and you’re not looking to hire someone yourself to do it, I said, ‘This is how you do it. We’re happy to help you help us, but that’s a decision you need to make because you need to fund it.’”
Kizer, however, also was concerned when St-Pierre’s reps asked questions about the list of substances the WADA program tests for, in addition to when the drug tests would be conducted and who would conduct them.
“They were asking, ‘Well, what do you test for?’ My answer is always the same: We test for prohibited substances as listed on the WADA list,” Kizer said. “(They said), ‘Well, what does that mean? Does that mean HGH, does that mean this, does that mean that?’ Yes, it means it all. The answer then should have been, ‘OK.’”
After more discussion, St-Pierre’s rep, whom Kizer identified as the fighter’s lawyer, Rodolphe Beaulieu, stood firm on using VADA.
“OK, fine, use VADA,” Kizer said of his response. “That’s not the question. The question is do you want to do outside testing through the athletic commission? And basically, they said we want to know all the tests you do so Georges’ medical advisors can vet the test first before we decide.
“I said, ‘I will take that as a no. We will let you know if we’re going to do any testing on our own. Goodbye.’”
I'm just gonna leave this right here.
TeamRenzo4Life -Wow... Never heard that...Needlemover - Why do people allege GSP took PEDS?.
There is no evidence of GSP cheating. The guy trains like crazy with his fitness.
I guess accusing him of cheating seems to be a popular throw away line by the general mma public who probably don't have any real basis behind it.
Georges may think (or know) some of his opponents were cheating, but still he doesn't come out and name them - but yet there are a lot of uninformed armchair critics with no inside knowledge dropping his name. Wtf.
According to a new report on MMAJunkie, St. Pierre will indeed go forward with enhanced drug testing conducted by VADA and will be tested by the Nevada State Athletic Commission, while Hendricks will only participate in the NSAC’s testing. Hendricks’s apparent refusal to cooperate with the VADA program raised our suspicions at first, but it turns out there’s another side to the story, and it’s one that paints the champ in an unflattering light.
The UFC set up the call with the fighters’ managers, trainer Firas Zahabi, UFC officials and [NSAC Executive Director Keith] Kizer on the basis that St-Pierre said he would pay for additional screening, Kizer said. The promotion had approached the NSAC about the program after hearing the commission would use it in advance of a WBO title bout between welterweight champ Tim Bradley and Juan Manuel Marquez on Oct. 12 in Las Vegas, Kizer said.
The program, which was detailed by the NSAC during the call, is run by a WADA-accredited lab in Salt Lake City. The NSAC currently employs out-of-competition testing, but the new lab moves closer to what Kizer calls “enhanced drug testing,” or what many say is Olympic-style testing.
In Bradley and Marquez’s case, promoter Top Rank agreed to pay the costs associated with random tests and have the results forwarded to the NSAC. In St-Pierre and Hendricks’ case, however, it was undecided who would foot the bill on the WADA program, which the commission doesn’t cover, Kizer said.
The two sides split on who would pay for the testing. St-Pierre’s camp expressed a preference to use VADA, which they said had agreed to partially pay for costs, according to Kizer…When informed of the WADA program’s cost, St-Pierre’s camp said they preferred to use VADA.
“I made it quite clear that if you guys want to do additional testing on your own, that’s fine,” Kizer said. “But if you’re serious about it and you’re not looking to hire someone yourself to do it, I said, ‘This is how you do it. We’re happy to help you help us, but that’s a decision you need to make because you need to fund it.’”
Kizer, however, also was concerned when St-Pierre’s reps asked questions about the list of substances the WADA program tests for, in addition to when the drug tests would be conducted and who would conduct them.
“They were asking, ‘Well, what do you test for?’ My answer is always the same: We test for prohibited substances as listed on the WADA list,” Kizer said. “(They said), ‘Well, what does that mean? Does that mean HGH, does that mean this, does that mean that?’ Yes, it means it all. The answer then should have been, ‘OK.’”
After more discussion, St-Pierre’s rep, whom Kizer identified as the fighter’s lawyer, Rodolphe Beaulieu, stood firm on using VADA.
“OK, fine, use VADA,” Kizer said of his response. “That’s not the question. The question is do you want to do outside testing through the athletic commission? And basically, they said we want to know all the tests you do so Georges’ medical advisors can vet the test first before we decide.
“I said, ‘I will take that as a no. We will let you know if we’re going to do any testing on our own. Goodbye.’”
I'm just gonna leave this right here.
Truly bizarre