Petition for the persecuted Marine

Here is a petition site to show support for the US Marine that shot a wounded insurgent in Iraq. The link is at the bottom, after the supporting information.

U.S.Marines were fired upon by snipers and insurgents armed with rocket-propelled grenades from a mosque and an adjacent building. The Marines returned fire with tank shells and machine guns.

They eventually stormed the mosque, killing 10 insurgents and wounding five others, and showing a cache of rifles and grenades for journalists.

The Marines told the pool reporter that the wounded insurgents would be left behind for others to pick up and move to the rear for treatment. But Saturday, another squad of Marines found that the mosque had been reoccupied by insurgents and attacked it again.

Four of the insurgents appeared to have been shot again in Saturday's fighting, and one of them appeared to be dead, according to the pool report. In the video, a Marine was seen noticing that one of the insurgents appeared to be breathing.

A Marine approached one of the men in the mosque saying, "He's [expletive] faking he's dead. He's faking he's [expletive] dead."

The Marine raised his rifle and fired into the insurgents head, at which point a companion said, "Well, he's dead now."

The camera then shows two Americans pointing weapons at another Iraqi insurgent lying motionless. But one of the Marines step back as the insurgent stretches out his hand, motioning that he is alive. The other Marine stands his ground, but neither of them fires.

When told by the pool reporter that the men were among those wounded in Friday's firefight, the Marine who fired the shot said, "I didn't know, sir. I didn't know."

"You can hear the tension in those Marines' voices. One is saying, 'He's faking it. He's faking it,'" Heyman said. "In a combat infantry soldier's training, he is always taught that his enemy is at his most dangerous when he is severely wounded."

A Marine in the same unit had been killed just a day earlier when he tended to the booby-trapped dead body of an insurgent.

NBC reported that the Marine seen shooting the Iraqi insurgent had himself been shot in the face the day before, but quickly returned to duty.

About a block away, a Marine was killed and five others wounded by a booby-trapped body they found in a house after a shootout with insurgents.

Amnesty International has noted reports that insurgents have used mosques as fighting positions, and have used white flags to lure Marines into ambushes.

The Marine who shot the insurgent has been withdrawn from the battlefield pending the results of an investigation, the U.S. military said.

These terrorists do not follow the rules of war. These terrorists kill innocent women by disemboweling them, cut of the heads of innocent truck drivers, detonate car bombs in crowds full of innocent people, and fly planes into buildings filled with innocent Americans.

It is my opinion that NOTHING should happen to this American Marine. He should be returned to his unit or be given an honorable discharge. We don't need our young men and women taking an extra second to decide if its right to shoot an enemy terrorist when that could mean that one of our soldiers could lose their life. The lives of our soldiers should be the single most important factor in this war against terrorism. The rights of terrorists can come second.





What's going on Aaron? How is civilian life treating you?



I will pass this around as well.

Jeff! Whats up, man? Civilian life is awsome. I absolutely LOVE being a cop, and its something I'm good at. I've been training my ass off at Greg Jackson's out here and having a blast! Say hello to Meach and the gang next time you see them.



Good to hear you are doing well. Is the wife out as well?

It could be a while before I see the gang, as you and I have switched roles a bit. I am here at Ft. Bragg now with the 82nd AB, and heading over to the big sandbox in March/April for a year.

But, I am going to try to make it to Cali in December, and I will be sure to say hello for you.


Thats awsome, man! Best advice I have for you is to watch the hands. As long as you can see their hands, your all right (usually!) Stay safe, brother.

The wife is out as well, she is plugging away at her final two years of college. The war put a little wrinkle in her college plan but she never complains.

Feel free to use my personal email dude, let me know if you need anything.



nothing that i've read justifies him killing a wounded soldier that posed NO threat to him.

TTT signed and dated with remarks....

mpthief, the question isn't wether or not the wounded insurgent posed a thrreat or not, but wether the Marine PERCIEVED and is able to articulate that he percived a threat. Read my post at the beginning and you will see the prior experiences that led to the Marine's choice.

Second of all: The Marine did NOT kill a wounded "soldier". A soldier is a uniformed fighter in a standing, organized military. This is based on the geneva convention. Make no mistake, these are insurgents and terrorists. These are the same individuals that claim refuge in holy sites and hospitals, but then fire on Americans from these same locations. They are the same individuals that kidnap and mutilate 70 year old ladies.

and last but not least. Were you there? Do you think that the video will show you everything? You would put the life of an Iraqi insurgent above that of the American fighting man? Even if there were no facts available, I would side with OUR men and women first!


Well said brother...

Thanks Drill Sergeant! Now I'll knock out 25!



Obviously this is a very touchy subject and out of respect for your cause I'll refrain from replying to your post directed at me.

However, if you would like to discuss this further feel free to start another thread and we can attempt to have an educated and analytical discussion about the matter.


I am impressed. There are so few mature individuals on the internet these days. I will gladly accept your challenge, and I will meet you in debate on the Otherground, where I will title a thread, "Marine that shot Wounded Iraqi"

We will be bombarded by trolls, I am sure, but we'll see if we can educate each other!


Here is the link for any others wishing to check it out:




That link is to the obituary of CPT Russell B. Rippetoe who was killed when he and two other Rangers were lured near a car bomb by the pregnant women who blew them up.

Good post SFC Matt Larsen--- some people just don't understand.