Phil baroni fighting Wandy in Japan on NYE?

Ray Elbe -
frederic -
Bozy_LUBMMA.com - How would they stop it from happening Kirik? Serious question. Phone Post
They can't stop him, but they can sue him after the fact. Phone Post 3.0
In America or Brazil?! Phone Post 3.0
Or Japan?

If he opened gyms there, he could keep fighting.
And with his name/fame over there, I can't see how they wouldn't succeed. Phone Post 3.0

MMAHAWK -
danggook - 
Galanis -
Kirik - 


Wand remains under contract with the UFC.



How can that be possible, though? He is not allowed to fight ever again, period.



So basically, this whole ordeal has banned him from making a living, EVER, in his chosen profession?

Do you understand what lifetime ban means? Means he is banned from fighting.

For the remainder of his life. Phone Post 3.0

In Nevada not the rest of the world.
Nope, anywhere. Ufc won't release him to some crooked promoter in Japan Phone Post 3.0

FatFrenchFry -
Ray Elbe -
frederic -
Bozy_LUBMMA.com - How would they stop it from happening Kirik? Serious question. Phone Post
They can't stop him, but they can sue him after the fact. Phone Post 3.0
In America or Brazil?! Phone Post 3.0
Or Japan?

If he opened gyms there, he could keep fighting.
And with his name/fame over there, I can't see how they wouldn't succeed. Phone Post 3.0
If he wants to leave all the comforts the USA affords him Phone Post 3.0

Wand is crazy and pissed off enough that I could see it happening. Unless the UFC threatens him with a lawsuit like the NSAC did, which wouldn't go over well with the public and media Phone Post 3.0

NSAC rulings have no jurisdiction in Japan.

As the UFC abides by athletic commission rulings regardless of where they hold shows, Wand's "lifetime ban" makes it impossible for UFC to ever book him.

It would be hard for UFC to make a credible case for why they would keep a guy under contract as a fighter when they cannot ever use him as a fighter.

It's not like he has a downside guarantee or is receiving a monthly stipend from the UFC or they transitioned him to a salaried ambassador role (and why would they, given how his career ended?)

Even a Nevada kangaroo court would realize keeping a fighter under contract when they can NEVER book him a fight is ridiculous.

VTCO - NSAC rulings have no jurisdiction in Japan.

As the UFC abides by athletic commission rulings regardless of where they hold shows, Wand's "lifetime ban" makes it impossible for UFC to ever book him.

It would be hard for UFC to make a credible case for why they would keep a guy under contract as a fighter when they cannot ever use him as a fighter.

It's not like he has a downside guarantee or is receiving a monthly stipend from the UFC or they transitioned him to a salaried ambassador role (and why would they, given how his career ended?)

Even a Nevada kangaroo court would realize keeping a fighter under contract when they can NEVER book him a fight is ridiculous.
In the real world there is no get out of jail free card in his contract. Phone Post 3.0

Galanis -


If so.. fuck the UFC and fuck the NSAC. I am not an anti UFC poster. But if they're literally going to dangle Wand's contract above him and say "you cannot make a living to feed your family in your profession" due to the NSAC ruling. That is completely fucked.



They should at least let him go if he will never be allowed to fight again here. It's a lot more fucked up to prevent a man from making a living.

You are now. Welcome to the resistance. Phone Post 3.0

RyannVonDoom -
Galanis -


If so.. fuck the UFC and fuck the NSAC. I am not an anti UFC poster. But if they're literally going to dangle Wand's contract above him and say "you cannot make a living to feed your family in your profession" due to the NSAC ruling. That is completely fucked.



They should at least let him go if he will never be allowed to fight again here. It's a lot more fucked up to prevent a man from making a living.

You are now. Welcome to the resistance. Phone Post 3.0
Funny how the sympathy is with the cheater. Wanderlei can go get a job at home depot or something. That won't put him in breach of contract. They will need a preemployment urine sample however. Phone Post 3.0

lol at welcome to the Resistance. Good job RVD Phone Post

danggook -
Galanis -
Kirik - 


Wand remains under contract with the UFC.



How can that be possible, though? He is not allowed to fight ever again, period.



So basically, this whole ordeal has banned him from making a living, EVER, in his chosen profession?

Do you understand what lifetime ban means? Means he is banned from fighting.

For the remainder of his life. Phone Post 3.0
From the U.S. guy. He could still fight overseas. One athletic commission in one country doesn't speak for the world. Phone Post 3.0

Didn't Baroni just fight at lightweight? And lose? Phone Post 3.0

danggook - 
RyannVonDoom -
Galanis -


If so.. fuck the UFC and fuck the NSAC. I am not an anti UFC poster. But if they're literally going to dangle Wand's contract above him and say "you cannot make a living to feed your family in your profession" due to the NSAC ruling. That is completely fucked.



They should at least let him go if he will never be allowed to fight again here. It's a lot more fucked up to prevent a man from making a living.

You are now. Welcome to the resistance. Phone Post 3.0
Funny how the sympathy is with the cheater. Wanderlei can go get a job at home depot or something. That won't put him in breach of contract. They will need a preemployment urine sample however. Phone Post 3.0

What kind of loser couch potato faggot thinks this way?

I promise you, if that fight is going to be on PPV and offered here in the US, the UFC won't let it happen! Phone Post 3.0

NM got my answer. But I doubt "Under contract" to the UFC would really stop a ONE FC from signing a guy and having him fight in some obscure place.

Devin Ratray's gf, WOOF -
danggook -
Galanis -
Kirik - 


Wand remains under contract with the UFC.



How can that be possible, though? He is not allowed to fight ever again, period.



So basically, this whole ordeal has banned him from making a living, EVER, in his chosen profession?

Do you understand what lifetime ban means? Means he is banned from fighting.

For the remainder of his life. Phone Post 3.0
From the U.S. guy. He could still fight overseas. One athletic commission in one country doesn't speak for the world. Phone Post 3.0
OK Einstein, let me spell it out for you.

1. Nsac lifetime ban
2. Under contract to the UFC

Add that up and let me know what you come up with. At best ufc may allow crooked Japanese promoter to buy out his contract, but with the way wand handled things I doubt they allow that. Phone Post 3.0

Galanis -
Kirik - 


Wand remains under contract with the UFC.



How can that be possible, though? He is not allowed to fight ever again, period.



So basically, this whole ordeal has banned him from making a living, EVER, in his chosen profession?

No different than any other high profile job. You fuck up, good luck. Phone Post 3.0

danggook - 
VTCO - NSAC rulings have no jurisdiction in Japan.

As the UFC abides by athletic commission rulings regardless of where they hold shows, Wand's "lifetime ban" makes it impossible for UFC to ever book him.

It would be hard for UFC to make a credible case for why they would keep a guy under contract as a fighter when they cannot ever use him as a fighter.

It's not like he has a downside guarantee or is receiving a monthly stipend from the UFC or they transitioned him to a salaried ambassador role (and why would they, given how his career ended?)

Even a Nevada kangaroo court would realize keeping a fighter under contract when they can NEVER book him a fight is ridiculous.
In the real world there is no get out of jail free card in his contract. Phone Post 3.0

In the real world, Wand isn't under UFC contract in perpetuity. The day will come when he is a free agent.

In the real world, a NSAC ruling and their "lifetime ban" has zero bearing overseas, and a Japanese promoter would laugh at the notion of abiding by such a ban.


When you get out of your fantasy world where Nevada's ban means Wand can't fight "For the remainder of his life", come back to the real world and rejoin the conversation, kid.

VTCO -
danggook - 
VTCO - NSAC rulings have no jurisdiction in Japan.

As the UFC abides by athletic commission rulings regardless of where they hold shows, Wand's "lifetime ban" makes it impossible for UFC to ever book him.

It would be hard for UFC to make a credible case for why they would keep a guy under contract as a fighter when they cannot ever use him as a fighter.

It's not like he has a downside guarantee or is receiving a monthly stipend from the UFC or they transitioned him to a salaried ambassador role (and why would they, given how his career ended?)

Even a Nevada kangaroo court would realize keeping a fighter under contract when they can NEVER book him a fight is ridiculous.
In the real world there is no get out of jail free card in his contract. Phone Post 3.0

In the real world, Wand isn't under UFC contract in perpetuity. The day will come when he is a free agent.

In the real world, a NSAC ruling and their "lifetime ban" has zero bearing overseas, and a Japanese promoter would laugh at the notion of abiding by such a ban.


When you get out of your fantasy world where Nevada's ban means Wand can't fight "For the remainder of his life", come back to the real world and rejoin the conversation, kid.
You're a fucking moron Phone Post 3.0

Would watch....








All one minute or less of the fight.... Phone Post 3.0

danggook - 
VTCO -
danggook - 
VTCO - NSAC rulings have no jurisdiction in Japan.

As the UFC abides by athletic commission rulings regardless of where they hold shows, Wand's "lifetime ban" makes it impossible for UFC to ever book him.

It would be hard for UFC to make a credible case for why they would keep a guy under contract as a fighter when they cannot ever use him as a fighter.

It's not like he has a downside guarantee or is receiving a monthly stipend from the UFC or they transitioned him to a salaried ambassador role (and why would they, given how his career ended?)

Even a Nevada kangaroo court would realize keeping a fighter under contract when they can NEVER book him a fight is ridiculous.
In the real world there is no get out of jail free card in his contract. Phone Post 3.0

In the real world, Wand isn't under UFC contract in perpetuity. The day will come when he is a free agent.

In the real world, a NSAC ruling and their "lifetime ban" has zero bearing overseas, and a Japanese promoter would laugh at the notion of abiding by such a ban.


When you get out of your fantasy world where Nevada's ban means Wand can't fight "For the remainder of his life", come back to the real world and rejoin the conversation, kid.
You're a fucking moron Phone Post 3.0

Says the dumbass who thinks a NSAC ban means dick overseas.

"Do you understand what lifetime ban means? Means he is banned from fighting.

For the remainder of his life."


LOL. Fucking idiot.