Good for Baroni trying to stay relevant at the end of his career. No one who saw him fight in the last six years would seriously think he has an offer to fight Wand or any other big name fighter.
Wand lives in Nevada, signed an exclusive contract with the UFC in Nevada and has been banned by the NSAC. So yes, there is something the UFC can do about it if Wand breaches his contract, and no, a Nevada court is not going to be accept a defense that he did so in over to evade a Nevada ban that the UFC was honoring.
The UFC is based in Nevada and derives most of its revenue from NSAC sanctioned events. The UFC is not going to release Wand so he can evade the NSAC ban. 
The notion that an American athletic commission has any jurisdiction over a Brazilian fighting in Japan under a different, unsanctioned organization is ridicules. All wanderlei really needs to do is to move back to Brazil, fight in Japan and not respond to their threats and they can't touch him.
Seems like some of you guys really, really believes America is the world police and you've got jurisdiction everywhere. Like, if wanderlei fought in Japan, seal team 6 comes crashing through the roof with big guns, shades and Motley Crue blasting in the background to stop him from breaching his deal with some casino owner from Nevada. 
Wand's face looks so different now, that side by side with the guy the UFC signed...no judge would conclude that it was the same guy.
Brock also had a WWE contract and managed to fight MMA.
Put a mask on Wand and call him The Axe Murderer
No court in the world would uphold a contract that forces an employee to remain with a company, forever, that will not ever actually employ or pay him.
Bobby Lupo -Brock had to wait his contract out...
Wand's face looks so different now, that side by side with the guy the UFC signed...no judge would conclude that it was the same guy.
Brock also had a WWE contract and managed to fight MMA.
Put a mask on Wand and call him The Axe Murderer
danggook -Could the ufc threaten the Japanese promotion with a lawsuit if they book him?RyannVonDoom -Funny how the sympathy is with the cheater. Wanderlei can go get a job at home depot or something. That won't put him in breach of contract. They will need a preemployment urine sample however.Galanis -You are now. Welcome to the resistance.
If so.. fuck the UFC and fuck the NSAC. I am not an anti UFC poster. But if they're literally going to dangle Wand's contract above him and say "you cannot make a living to feed your family in your profession" due to the NSAC ruling. That is completely fucked.
They should at least let him go if he will never be allowed to fight again here. It's a lot more fucked up to prevent a man from making a living.
orcus, in your expert legal opinion Wand was unlikely to be suspended at all, but only faced a maximum of six months if he was. So, which is more likely:
1. Wand sells his house and gym in Vegas so he can't be sued for breach of contract, and the UFC lets this unnamed Japanese organization sign a big name fighter they have under contract and does not seek injunctive relief.
2. The UFC "pulls a Wand" with a big FU to the NSAC and releases Wand to fight in Japan for a competitor just to wish Wand a happy new year for all the good he did for the UFC in the last year like pulling a no-show at the TUF Brazil finals, the Wand/Sonnen/Vitor drug fiasco for UFC 175 and publicly blaming the UFC for god knows what in an incoherent video after he "retired for life" http://mmajunkie.com/2014/09/wanderlei-silva-lashes-out-at-ufc-in-video-announcing-retirement-from-mma
BooZe -You better be leaf itdanggook -Could the ufc threaten the Japanese promotion with a lawsuit if they book him?RyannVonDoom -Funny how the sympathy is with the cheater. Wanderlei can go get a job at home depot or something. That won't put him in breach of contract. They will need a preemployment urine sample however.Galanis -You are now. Welcome to the resistance.
If so.. fuck the UFC and fuck the NSAC. I am not an anti UFC poster. But if they're literally going to dangle Wand's contract above him and say "you cannot make a living to feed your family in your profession" due to the NSAC ruling. That is completely fucked.
They should at least let him go if he will never be allowed to fight again here. It's a lot more fucked up to prevent a man from making a living.
If he ever does fight again which is unlikely, his opponent should walk out in a white labcoat, wear latex gloves and be holding a urine collection cup.
Huge psychological edge
danggook -Damn, free wand!BooZe -You better be leaf itdanggook -Could the ufc threaten the Japanese promotion with a lawsuit if they book him?RyannVonDoom -Funny how the sympathy is with the cheater. Wanderlei can go get a job at home depot or something. That won't put him in breach of contract. They will need a preemployment urine sample however.Galanis -You are now. Welcome to the resistance.
If so.. fuck the UFC and fuck the NSAC. I am not an anti UFC poster. But if they're literally going to dangle Wand's contract above him and say "you cannot make a living to feed your family in your profession" due to the NSAC ruling. That is completely fucked.
They should at least let him go if he will never be allowed to fight again here. It's a lot more fucked up to prevent a man from making a living.
so they arent going to let him fight in the ufc, if your not alllowed to fight, what the fuck is the point of having a contract? why cant they just let him go? i dont understand but i do know that zuffa is run liek nazis
I doubt the ufc contract would hold up in court if he has a lifetime suspension from fighting. How can you stop someone from making a living? Plus it would be a horrible black eye for the ufc if the public heard a fighter can't fight. It goes back to the stupid ac with their childish lifetime ban that put them in this position.
jpm995, have you and orcus been providing legal advice to Wand? Since we are in fantasy land, lets pretend that Wand fights Baroni at this imaginary NYE event in Japan. Please let us know your argument to the Nevada court as to why Wand should not be liable for breach of contract. Would you just say "War Wand, Pride Never Die!" to the Court or argue any of the following:
- NSAC had no right to test Wand for illegal PEDs so the ban does not apply
- Everyone does it, hell they are letting Vitor fight for a title
- The UFC should have ignored the NSAC and let Wand bang
- The contract is just, like, your opinion man.
I'll watch...and laugh along side Japan at the NSAC.
UFC, let him bang bros.
Koga - jpm995, have you and orcus been providing legal advice to Wand? Since we are in fantasy land, lets pretend that Wand fights Baroni at this imaginary NYE event in Japan. Please let us know your argument to the Nevada court as to why Wand should not be liable for breach of contract. Would you just say "War Wand, Pride Never Die!" to the Court or argue any of the following:
- NSAC had no right to test Wand for illegal PEDs so the ban does not apply
- Everyone does it, hell they are letting Vitor fight for a title
- The UFC should have ignored the NSAC and let Wand bang
- The contract is just, like, your opinion man.
Koga- so you think ac in Nevada and the ufc can enforce a lifetime ban for refusing a drug test? There's limits to contracts, it would be very hard to enforce a contract that doesn't allow a fighter to make a living. First off Nevada doesn't have jurisdiction anywhere but Nevada so its the ufc contract that's the issue. If he's cleared to fight elsewere the ufc would have a hard time enforcing a contract that pays nothing to a fighter and won't allow him to fight. Wands paid his dues to this sport and if he can collect a few more paydays good for him. If the ufc sues him i would consider boycotting the ufc. I've bought every ufc available except one since the beginning and i'm getting sick and tired of their bs.
I might be completely wrong, but don't the UFC have to offer Wand fights for his contract to stay valid. If they are abiding by the NSAC ruling, they can't offer him fights, which would eventually null the contract? Or would bans be covered under that somehow?
jpm995 -Koga - jpm995, have you and orcus been providing legal advice to Wand? Since we are in fantasy land, lets pretend that Wand fights Baroni at this imaginary NYE event in Japan. Please let us know your argument to the Nevada court as to why Wand should not be liable for breach of contract. Would you just say "War Wand, Pride Never Die!" to the Court or argue any of the following:
- NSAC had no right to test Wand for illegal PEDs so the ban does not apply
- Everyone does it, hell they are letting Vitor fight for a title
- The UFC should have ignored the NSAC and let Wand bang
- The contract is just, like, your opinion man.
Koga- so you think ac in Nevada and the ufc can enforce a lifetime ban for refusing a drug test? There's limits to contracts, it would be very hard to enforce a contract that doesn't allow a fighter to make a living. First off Nevada doesn't have jurisdiction anywhere but Nevada so its the ufc contract that's the issue. If he's cleared to fight elsewere the ufc would have a hard time enforcing a contract that pays nothing to a fighter and won't allow him to fight. Wands paid his dues to this sport and if he can collect a few more paydays good for him. If the ufc sues him i would consider boycotting the ufc. I've bought every ufc available except one since the beginning and i'm getting sick and tired of their bs.
I fail to see why you are all directing your anger at the UFC and it's contract.
Wand signed a contract and agreed to meet the criteria outlined, which I'm sure stipulated he meet the drug guidelines.
It's Wand who failed to adhere to the contract thus preventing him to be able to fight. So you all support fighters being able to get out of their contracts by breaching the rules of the contract?
Image if the UFC allowed Wand to fight in Japan for another organization, what precident does that set? Imagine what that does to the thousands of other contracts the UFC has with fighters. It pretty much rules them void, if at any time a fighter wants out they can just run from a drug test, get a lifetime ban and boom, they're out of the contract.
Again, Wand can't fight because he broke the rules, not the UFC... but yet everyones blaming the UFC for him not being able to fight. That's just very flawed logic.
In fact, I'm sure the UFC would let Wand fight right away should he be able to make things right with the athletic commission, so it's not the UFC that's preventing him from fighting.
FETT_the geek -They are directing all their anger towards danggookjpm995 -Koga - jpm995, have you and orcus been providing legal advice to Wand? Since we are in fantasy land, lets pretend that Wand fights Baroni at this imaginary NYE event in Japan. Please let us know your argument to the Nevada court as to why Wand should not be liable for breach of contract. Would you just say "War Wand, Pride Never Die!" to the Court or argue any of the following:
- NSAC had no right to test Wand for illegal PEDs so the ban does not apply
- Everyone does it, hell they are letting Vitor fight for a title
- The UFC should have ignored the NSAC and let Wand bang
- The contract is just, like, your opinion man.
Koga- so you think ac in Nevada and the ufc can enforce a lifetime ban for refusing a drug test? There's limits to contracts, it would be very hard to enforce a contract that doesn't allow a fighter to make a living. First off Nevada doesn't have jurisdiction anywhere but Nevada so its the ufc contract that's the issue. If he's cleared to fight elsewere the ufc would have a hard time enforcing a contract that pays nothing to a fighter and won't allow him to fight. Wands paid his dues to this sport and if he can collect a few more paydays good for him. If the ufc sues him i would consider boycotting the ufc. I've bought every ufc available except one since the beginning and i'm getting sick and tired of their bs.
I fail to see why you are all directing your anger at the UFC and it's contract.
Wand signed a contract and agreed to meet the criteria outlined, which I'm sure stipulated he meet the drug guidelines.
It's Wand who failed to adhere to the contract thus preventing him to be able to fight. So you all support fighters being able to get out of their contracts by breaching the rules of the contract?
Image if the UFC allowed Wand to fight in Japan for another organization, what precident does that set? Imagine what that does to the thousands of other contracts the UFC has with fighters. It pretty much rules them void, if at any time a fighter wants out they can just run from a drug test, get a lifetime ban and boom, they're out of the contract.
Again, Wand can't fight because he broke the rules, not the UFC... but yet everyones blaming the UFC for him not being able to fight. That's just very flawed logic.
In fact, I'm sure the UFC would let Wand fight right away should he be able to make things right with the athletic commission, so it's not the UFC that's preventing him from fighting.
Zeph - I might be completely wrong, but don't the UFC have to offer Wand fights for his contract to stay valid. If they are abiding by the NSAC ruling, they can't offer him fights, which would eventually null the contract? Or would bans be covered under that somehow?
Not completely accurate. Remember the Randy contract dispute. The contract usually has a few clauses like 8 fights in 4 years, but it's not either or. Randy thought if he let the time frame expire than the contract is complete, but he still had a fight remaining. Even if the time frame expires the fighter still has to complete the contracted amount of fights.
I know it's not quite that simple, I think if the fighter is healthy and able to fight the entire time of the contract and the UFC doesn't provide any fights then that's not the fighters fault and one the time expires I think the contract does as well. But usually they don't complete all the fights due to suspensions and injuries.
A fighter being banned from fighting due to the fighters negligence shouldn't negate the contract or people could simply break the rules of the contract to get out... and why have contracts then.
I don't need to see Baroni ever fight again.
Not saying he needs to retire, just saying I won't watch any more of his fights.