Police Brutality Motiongraphic


Yep, looks like cops don't tolerate misbehavior from fellow cops, right?  And if a cop busts another cop who was misbehaving, all of the other cops will support the cop who effected the arrest, right?  Right?



 



Sorry man, you live in a fucking fantasy world.  The good cops who actually do something about the bad cops are the ones who will not be tolerated.  The bad cops will be protected and the wagons will be circled.  


What was the outcome after the cops in this incident were arrested by other cops and then charged with kidnapping, false arrest, and rape?

'splain this one, Dudley Do Right.

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140106/10162825772/internal-affairs-divisions-dismissing-99-misconduct-cases-against-new-jersey-police-officers.shtml

Internal Affairs Divisions Dismissing 99% Of Misconduct Cases Against New Jersey Police Officers

from the another-argument-for-recording-officers-during-arrests dept

Not all cops are bad, but the insulation from accountability begins with the departments themselves, which often go out of their way to defend the actions of abusive officers. In some cases, pressure from police unions has kept unruly officers on the job despite the departments' efforts to remove them. Other times, the insulating force is also the first line of officer accountability: Internal Affairs. Often depicted as a hated entity within the force, the Internal Affairs division is supposed to be the public's first line of defense against cops who abuse their power. As documents obtained by the Courier News and Home News Tribune show, dozens of complaints against central New Jersey police officers are dismissed every year without ever making it past these departments' internal review mechanisms.

From 2008 to 2012, citizens filed hundreds of complaints alleging brutality, bias and civil rights violations by officers in more than seven dozen police departments in Central Jersey… 

Just 1 percent of all excessive force complaints were sustained by internal affairs units in Central Jersey, the review found. That’s less than the national average of 8 percent, according to a federal Bureau of Justice Statistics report released in 2007. 

Elizabeth, for example, processed 203 such complaints in the five-year period and not once sided with a complainant. Woodbridge had 84 complaints, New Brunswick had 81, Perth Amboy had 50 and Linden had 33. In all those cases, these agencies either “exonerated” the officers, dismissed the complaints as frivolous, determined that they did not have sufficient evidence or simply never closed the investigations.
Nationwide numbers aren't all that encouraging, with only 8% of complaints being sustained, but the New Jersey police departments are pitching near shutouts. These numbers can be taken to mean that either these departments only staff exemplary officers -- or that many cases boil down to not much more than the complainant's word against the officer's, something that rarely goes the complainant's way. 

On a positive note, the journalists were able to compile the numbers thanks to New Jersey's Open Public Records Act which requires police departments to tally and track complaints, including how each case is disposed. On the downside, almost all information related to the officers involved is redacted.
 

So, I posted 4 incidents, 4 different departments.  Which cops in any of those incidents were arrested for kidnapping, assault, rape, false arrest, and every other crime they committed, by the cops you claim would never tolerate something like that?  

The only cop in any of those incidents who really doesn't tolerate shit like that was herself targetted and harassed by other cops precisely because she didn't tolerate an asshole cop driving 120mph because he was "late for work".   lol....how many tickets have cops given to people who were also "late for work"?  I guess it's ok for cops to speed when they are late for an off-duty security job but when anyone else is late for work, they deserve a ticket.

Sorry dude but go jerk off in your little fantasy world. The rest of us live in reality, not the fantasy world you've created in your head. 

angryinch -


So, I posted 4 incidents, 4 different departments.  Which cops in any of those incidents were arrested for kidnapping, assault, rape, false arrest, and every other crime they committed, by the cops you claim would never tolerate something like that?  



The only cop in any of those incidents who really doesn't tolerate shit like that was herself targetted and harassed by other cops precisely because she didn't tolerate an asshole cop driving 120mph because he was "late for work".   lol....how many tickets have cops given to people who were also "late for work"?  I guess it's ok for cops to speed when they are late for an off-duty security job but when anyone else is late for work, they deserve a ticket.



Sorry dude but go jerk off in your little fantasy world. The rest of us live in reality, not the fantasy world you've created in your head. 

Would those fall under the category (in the video) as "complaints without merit."? Phone Post 3.0

Later Phone Post 3.0

sreiter - 
Marge Gunderson - 
Statistics came from:

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/...

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cp...

http://www.census.gov/compendia/stata...


lmao @ "stats"

there is no requirement to report incidents, and most departments dont.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/hundreds-of-police-killings-are-uncounted-in-federal-statistics-1417577504


Anyone who is not thoroughly educated on how to record and maintain statistics, as well as analyze statistics, will not understand them and will make mistakes.

Typically even college graduates have a tough time with stats and graduate with limited numerical comprehension when it comes to really understanding variables and error.

It is impossible for police officers to accurately record, maintain, and analyze statistical data honestly and comprehensively, because probably less than 10% understand how they work. To have any proficiency at statistics requires years of learning, which is why when you're in a grad program you get it shoved down your throat year after year.

There is absolutely no doubt police departments and other agencies are accurately taking down data in the field. The less oversight, the more error over time.

The only way we'll get the least possible amount of error in reporting crimes is when there are body cameras, independent review of all police situations, and better standards set in place to quantify scenarios that occur in the field. You need precision and accuracy, which we know does not occur in law enforcement to the degree that the information is dependable and trustworthy.

Anyone who tries to argue this point is either completely uneducated or just ignorant, or doesn't understand how stats work.

Dummies who don't understand stats always say, "You can make stats say anything!" A person who understands stats knows that numbers do not lie, they are black or white. When things are gray, you have to question the methodology and measurement instrument.

Numbers are always honest...unless idiots are trying to manipulate them, or do not understand them.

Samoa - 
angryinch -

So, I posted 4 incidents, 4 different departments.  Which cops in any of those incidents were arrested for kidnapping, assault, rape, false arrest, and every other crime they committed, by the cops you claim would never tolerate something like that?  

The only cop in any of those incidents who really doesn't tolerate shit like that was herself targetted and harassed by other cops precisely because she didn't tolerate an asshole cop driving 120mph because he was "late for work".   lol....how many tickets have cops given to people who were also "late for work"?  I guess it's ok for cops to speed when they are late for an off-duty security job but when anyone else is late for work, they deserve a ticket.

Sorry dude but go jerk off in your little fantasy world. The rest of us live in reality, not the fantasy world you've created in your head. 

<span class="User-113767" id="userPost52610601">Would those fall under the category (in the video) as &quot;complaints without merit.&quot;? <img alt="Phone Post 3.0" border="0" src="/images/phone/apple.png" style="vertical-align:middle;" /></span></blockquote>

 

More that would fall under the category of "complaints without merit."

 

Florida police accused of racial profiling after stopping man 258 times, charging him with trespassing at work

In the last four years Earl Sampson, 28, has been questioned by police 258 times, searched more than 100 times, jailed 56 times, and arrested for trespassing 62 times. The majority of these citations occurred at his place of work, a Miami Gardens convenience store where the owner says police are racially profiling.

A Florida police department is facing racial profiling charges after stopping a man 258 times and repeatedly charging him with trespassing at the convenience store where he works.

At least once a week for the last four years, Earl Sampson, 28, has been stopped by Miami Gardens police —  and searched more than 100 times, jailed 56 times and arrested for trespassing 62 times, records show.

The only conviction he's had, according to his lengthy records, is for marijuana possession.

 

"They created this record," Sampson's boss and the owner of 207 Quickstop, Alex Saleh, told the Daily News Friday. "He's a good guy, a humble guy, a quiet guy. He's not a convicted felon."

Saleh plans to present a civil rights suit against the city's police department and mayor next week after he installed security cameras to monitor the police's activity in and outside his store.

The resulting footage since obtained by the Miami Herald is described by Saleh as beyond legal but disturbing as well.

During one of Sampson's arrests — Sampson being just one of Saleh's alleged employees and customers subjected to police harassment — he's seen refilling a cooler inside the store when an officer walks up beside him.

"They ask him, 'What are you doing here?'" recalled Saleh. "He said, 'I work here.' The clerk said he works here. I said, 'I'm the owner, let him go. I work here.' The officer said, 'Yeah right.'

"So he has more power than me!"

 

According to Saleh, it doesn't stop there.

In addition to video appearing to show Sampson being grabbed by an officer while taking out the trash and at another time searched against a wall, Saleh accuses them of searching throughout his store without a warrant.

"One officer asked me, 'Can I use the restroom?'" he said of one incident allegedly caught on camera. "He opened the restroom door ... he decided to go walk in coolers to commit a search."

After seeing the footage Saleh said he contacted the police and was told that there was no search warrant issued for his business's location.

The police allegedly told him, "'Oh, we'll open an investigation.' It's been 15 months!"

Another video appears to show an officer snooping behind the cash register area. The unidentified officer is seen taking one knee to flip through some papers.

Saleh says the police aren't just a problem at his store, but to the entire community as well.

"Not only to the (other) stores but the people in the community have been having a problem with the police," he said.

He blames it on there being no relationship between the police and community amid a city drenched in high crime.

He also blames it on a "zero-tolerance" program enacted by the police department. The program allows officers to arrest anyone for trespassing if seen on a property that is closed and the owner is not there, said Saleh.

The business owner signed up for it, but now calls that a regret.

"It is illegal. They created a policy that's illegal," he said.

He claims that most of the trespassing arrests made at his store since are when his store is open and when he's there. 

"They're just stopping anybody who walks in the city or who comes into my store," argued Saleh. "You can't violate people's rights just by standing in front of a business. You have no right to pull me against the wall and search me and question me for no reason."

Messages left with the Miami Gardens Police Department, including Chief Matthew Boyd and Deputy Chief of Police Paul Miller, were not immediately returned to the Daily News.

In a statement released to the Miami Herald, Boyd said "the department is committed to serving and protecting the citizens and businesses in the city."

But of course, those cops have all been arrested for kidnapping (not to mention harassment and stalking) by all of the other cops in the department that don't tolerate behavior like that, right, IP?  Right?

IP, what happened to the cops responsible for this fiasco?

 

Remember?  The ones who indiscriminately opened fire on two grannies delivering newspapers?  The department sent out a tactical team to arrest them for assault, attempted murder, and countless firearm and weapons violations because the cops in that department don't tolerate rogue out of control cops opening fire on innocent grannies, right?  Right?

 

 

Another one to add to the statistical motiongraphic.

http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/Caught-on-Camera-Fort-Lauderdale-Officer-Slaps--Pushes-Homeless-Man-to-Ground-293775121.html

 

angryinch -


IP, what happened to the cops responsible for this fiasco?





 



Remember?  The ones who indiscriminately opened fire on two grannies delivering newspapers?  The department sent out a tactical team to arrest them for assault, attempted murder, and countless firearm and weapons violations because the cops in that department don't tolerate rogue out of control cops opening fire on innocent grannies, right?  Right?



 



 

Lol I love a good angryinch rant Phone Post 3.0

Marge Gunderson - http://www.policemisconduct.net/2010-npmsrp-police-misconduct-statistical-report/#_Police_Misconduct_Trending

This is the CATO Institute's 2010 police misconduct report I referenced, for anyone interested. The fractional percentages of officers involved in police brutality and other forms of misconduct are reflected in CATO's reporting, just as they are in the OP. CATO compiles their own research and data and do not use the same statistical sources as the OP either. Phone Post 3.0

cato compiles data available. it doesnt address what cops dont report. cato has stated its data is lacking because of police not reporting to national sources

IP - 
angryinch - 
IP - 
WidespreadPanic - 


I think it's similar to that excellent monologue by Brigitte Gabriel, a panelist of ACT for America on why it doesn't matter that there are 'good Muslims', the bad ones are so pervasive and harmful that there's really no way to compensate or make up for it.



Good cops, if there are any, should be so shocked and driven to action at the trend toward evil by LE that they should dissolve the blue line and stop standing up for, or standing silent on abuses, crimes and bribes being taken by their fellows.



Departments like Palm Beach PD should have been dissolved years ago, and we need an NTSB style investigation body to take up these abuse and other cases and stop with the internal review boards which are corrupt by their very nature.



They need to stop making it politically correct for LEOs to abuse suspects - they are not the judge, jury and executioner. But it won't happen because the power elite are exempt and they want us to fear the cops and hope things get worse so they can enact martial law or the like.


Haha, none of this is accurate - but I'm sure it sounds good to a receptive ear.


Sorry man but he's right.  If the so called "good cops" really were good cops, you'd see cops arresting other cops on a daily basis.  You'd see entire departments threatening to walk out unless the bad cops are fired and arrested.  That never happens.  The percentage of genuinely good cops is very very low.  


AI, I'm retired so I don't really have a dog in this fight anymore....well, maybe a small dog.

Your statement, "The percentage of genuinely good cops is very very low," actually inverts the facts I've come to know during 25 years of work as a cop, in that the percentage of bad cops is very, very low, relatively speaking. By "bad," I mean unethical and/or immoral.

There are tens of thousands of cops working daily, and there are over a hundred - yes, over a hundred - warrants served by tactical teams daily in the US. Of all that activity, there's an extremely small number of "bad" cop examples. Mistakes? They absolutely occur...and some dumb boneheaded ones at that (I'm guilty of a few myself), but the numbers are still not near being significant or noticeable enough to cause a department wide, let along industrywide uprising.

As far as agencies policing their own, my experience is that PDs more often then not go overboard when disciplining staff. As a sergeant I experienced numerous ongoing exchanges during shift briefings where I had to put everyone at ease, that the PD was not "going after them" and that they'd be supported as long as they did their job. I'm sure there are some other cops out there who can support the fact that no cop feels comfortable around Internal Affairs investigators.

The typical complaint I received from the public about a cop was usually directly related to how the citizen felt they were treated crappily, and in most cases after reviewing all the facts and presenting them back to the citizen, they were understanding and the complaint was squashed. The big ones, excessive force, usually don't get filed the day of the event but come in later and go straight upstairs, and in many cases, the complainant has already contacted an attorney. These rarely happen but are a big deal when they do.

I could talk on this for hours because I feel pretty knowledgable in the area, but I don't want to beat a dead horse (and then have to plant a gun on said horse so I could get away with it).

there are over 400 innocent people killed by cops every year. thats acceptable to you because the number is "low"?

how would you feel if the same percentage of those bad cops were cops being murdered? i mean, hell, its only a small percentage, right?

AttentionDeficitDizzle - Dummies who don't understand stats always say, "You can make stats say anything!" A person who understands stats knows that numbers do not lie, they are black or white. When things are gray, you have to question the methodology and measurement instrument.

Numbers are always honest...unless idiots are trying to manipulate them, or do not understand them.

mean, median, mode

lol @ IP tucking tail and disappearing from this thread after being soundly sat the fuck down and educated on the realities he has been too delusional to see until having his nose rubbed in it on this thread. 

AI you really have a Pitbull mentality regarding police.