Pride and UFC are BOTH great. Anyone who can't appreciate both and all the incredible fights and fighters that came out of both is a full on FAGGOT.
Rappy Gilmore - Tournaments are exciting but they are horrible for determining who is the best and the champ of the division should never be in them.
I can't agree with this enough...
The finals of these tournaments are just for shits and giggles....it's never a fair fight....
I always wanted to see a titleholder in K1 and title defenses along with tourneys every now and then....
They have titleholders now
CAFattack - UFC had a fucking pro wrassler fight...
Shut Up -
compare that to how many Pride had and get back to me
They have titleholders now
Yeah....too late for me. I'm a massive Mirko fan and he's beat a lot of GP champs....
JimmersonzGlove -jacktripper -Fixed it for ya.JimmersonzGlove - Both orgs are/were about making money over everything.
ufc never fixed fights to draw an audience (other than Franklin/Shamrock.)
yea im sure zuffa would risk the 10's of millions they invested in mma and possible prosecution to work a ufn fight that franklin was already heavily favored in
bit of a stretch but i dont actually think you believe the fight was worked
orcus - Has a UFC champion ever fought at the weight at which he's champion, and NOT had the title on the line? Other than when one guy fails to make weight (Riggs, Lutter), I can't think of any.This is true. Didnt Nogueira go like 5 fights before actually defending the title? Sapp and Schilt come to mind!
In Pride, the champions literally had more non-title fights than fights where the title was at stake.
In fact, IIRC he never actually defended the PRIDE HW belt, losing it to Fedor in his first title defense !
CRBMoney14 -Gullivers Travels -Mad Xyientist -Gullivers Travels - but you would never see top of the line boxers fight more than once in a single night, or any contact sport for that matter.
Is this a joke? There's this small little kickboxing promotion called "K1" that puts on some of the biggest combat sports events on the planet. K1 World Grand Prix champions win 3 bouts in a night. I'm pretty sure that's a contact sport. In fact, its pretty much a requirement in kickboxing to be win multiple bouts in one night to ever be called "great"
Wrestling and grappling tournaments also have multiple bouts in a day.
Sounds like you're a real "contact sport" aficionado.
I am. Obviously K-1, Strikeforce and others have had tournaments recently, but that doesn't mean it's good for the sport or athletes. I would much rather see 2 top fighters in a weight class have a full training camp and fight each other fresh, than go through 1 or 2 fights earlier in the night. BTW we saw how well pure K-1 strikers did in the last GP. And grappling and wrestling are completely different than boxing/mma in terms of damage sustained.
You obviously have no idea what your talking about.
Remy Bonjasky is a pure k-1 striker and he won the last GP
I don't know why I said GP, I was referring to Hari/Overeem and Musashi/Mousasi.