Flyers179 -Erik Apple -Does the fact TJ didnt try and fight this or lie, help him keep some self respect?
Yes, depending on how he responds to this and comes back. The best thing he can do for now is lay low.
Curious if the TAM guys are gonna jump on him now and pretend it never went on in their camp.
Cody kind of already admitted to the alpha males camp being on PEDs by saying TJ taught them how to do it.
Erik Apple -Does the fact TJ didnt try and fight this or lie, help him keep some self respect?
Honestly I dont think so. He pulled the whole "im relinquishing the belt so I dont hold up the division" and I think that was just to save face.
Jones did get cheered once he came back. Every press conference they booed D.C. and cheered for jones pretty hard.
Regardless of the sport, most of these elite athletes are juiced to the gills and only the naive think otherwise, you take Yoel Romero, sure he is a genetic freak athlete, but no 41 year old looks like that without a little pharmaceutical help, as for Paulo Costa lol.
You’re looking for logic in UFC fandom????
good luck with that.
Darth Potato -Pill Cosby -TJ's entitlement is absolutely off the charts in comparison, especially considering he was iniecting EPO. He was literally just on ESPN after losing to Cejudo, in tears because he felt the ref "cheated" him. He was absolutely beside himself. I mean, the nerve to cheat like that is one thing. To then complain publicly about ANYTHING being fair or unfair is just. I cant even. He looks like an absolute psychopath.
Ok and you don’t think Cejudo is juicing???
Get fucking real, look at the guy. They’re all on the sauce. You can’t do 5 hours of cardio every day and maintain that muscle mass without some help.
Yeah i mean there is that but at the very least we don't know for sure with Cejudo or at least he knows how to cycle properly. There are many people you suspect like Pettis and Weidman based on their careers tanking after USADA but until they pop you really can't say shit.
In my opinion EPO isn't as bad as test, or anything Jon Jones or Anderson Silva have failed for.
Its because fans on the forums are fickle. While everyone loves a dominant winner, they love even more so to tear someone down when they fail publicly. Now that they seem human again, it makes the fickle feel better about their own shortcomings.
There isn't as many headlines from the media compared to Jon.
I think you're wrong.
Because he has NO redeeming qualities. He’s an asshole, snake, betrayer, smug dip shit who makes up the stupidest excuses when he gets his ass kicked.
He’s a jerk who got what he deserved.
He’s no bueno.
Erik Apple -Does the fact TJ didnt try and fight this or lie, help him keep some self respect?
you know why he didn't fought it? he was facing 4 years
Morpheus1976 -Erik Apple -Does the fact TJ didnt try and fight this or lie, help him keep some self respect?
you know why he didn't fought it? he was facing 4 years
4 years for first offense? Is that a thing?
Erik Apple -Morpheus1976 -Erik Apple -Does the fact TJ didnt try and fight this or lie, help him keep some self respect?
you know why he didn't fought it? he was facing 4 years
4 years for first offense? Is that a thing?
USADA took an old B-sample and retested it for EPO, it was a positive, so they got two positive test now. which is second offence is a double.
2*2 years=4
USADA said we are going to give you 4 years or 2 and own it.
TJ took the 2 years
TJ comes off like an asshole. Also a dumbass that thinks he’s smart. He’s difficult to like. I think that’s why people are harder on him. Also, very few people really like the midget divisions.
People are also hard on Jon Jones, but he gets some slack because he’s probably the most talented fighter we’ve ever seen.
Pill Cosby -Darth Potato -Pill Cosby -TJ's entitlement is absolutely off the charts in comparison, especially considering he was iniecting EPO. He was literally just on ESPN after losing to Cejudo, in tears because he felt the ref "cheated" him. He was absolutely beside himself. I mean, the nerve to cheat like that is one thing. To then complain publicly about ANYTHING being fair or unfair is just. I cant even. He looks like an absolute psychopath.
Ok and you don’t think Cejudo is juicing???
Get fucking real, look at the guy. They’re all on the sauce. You can’t do 5 hours of cardio every day and maintain that muscle mass without some help.
Yeah i mean there is that but at the very least we don't know for sure with Cejudo or at least he knows how to cycle properly. There are many people you suspect like Pettis and Weidman based on their careers tanking after USADA but until they pop you really can't say shit.
Yeah but those two you mentioned probably will never pop because I think they’re natural now post USADA.
but i don’t get why people are freaking out over T.J. popping. So what the guy isn’t as good at cycling as his opponents are.
Darth Potato -Pill Cosby -Darth Potato -Pill Cosby -TJ's entitlement is absolutely off the charts in comparison, especially considering he was iniecting EPO. He was literally just on ESPN after losing to Cejudo, in tears because he felt the ref "cheated" him. He was absolutely beside himself. I mean, the nerve to cheat like that is one thing. To then complain publicly about ANYTHING being fair or unfair is just. I cant even. He looks like an absolute psychopath.
Ok and you don’t think Cejudo is juicing???
Get fucking real, look at the guy. They’re all on the sauce. You can’t do 5 hours of cardio every day and maintain that muscle mass without some help.
Yeah i mean there is that but at the very least we don't know for sure with Cejudo or at least he knows how to cycle properly. There are many people you suspect like Pettis and Weidman based on their careers tanking after USADA but until they pop you really can't say shit.
Yeah but those two you mentioned probably will never pop because I think they’re natural now post USADA.
but i don’t get why people are freaking out over T.J. popping. So what the guy isn’t as good at cycling as his opponents are.
Not everyone is juicing you idiot.
I am with Nate Diaz on this issue and believe the majority are cheating. With that in mind I find it difficult to understand why one fighter caught cheating will get more heat than another fighter caught cheating.
Does anyone truly accept the various excuses such as dick pills, tainted supplements, kangaroo meat or pulsing?
TexDeuce -Darth Potato -Pill Cosby -Darth Potato -Pill Cosby -TJ's entitlement is absolutely off the charts in comparison, especially considering he was iniecting EPO. He was literally just on ESPN after losing to Cejudo, in tears because he felt the ref "cheated" him. He was absolutely beside himself. I mean, the nerve to cheat like that is one thing. To then complain publicly about ANYTHING being fair or unfair is just. I cant even. He looks like an absolute psychopath.
Ok and you don’t think Cejudo is juicing???
Get fucking real, look at the guy. They’re all on the sauce. You can’t do 5 hours of cardio every day and maintain that muscle mass without some help.
Yeah i mean there is that but at the very least we don't know for sure with Cejudo or at least he knows how to cycle properly. There are many people you suspect like Pettis and Weidman based on their careers tanking after USADA but until they pop you really can't say shit.
Yeah but those two you mentioned probably will never pop because I think they’re natural now post USADA.
but i don’t get why people are freaking out over T.J. popping. So what the guy isn’t as good at cycling as his opponents are.
Not everyone is juicing you idiot.
You’re naive.
I don't recall anyone giving Machida any shit when he was busted.
Erik Apple - This is more of a question then a statement.Im curious why people are shitting on TJ more then Jon, or other fighters who have pissed hot?
IS using EPO worse then taking test? Is it not as bad? Im curious what people think…
I just feel like TJ is being abused online more then other fighters in his position. I dont think he has been in any trouble before…
I feel like Jones got shit on by fans for his PED use at least as much as TJ, if not more. The commissions and UFC were the ones treated him better than others who got caught.
Kimbos Lice -I don't recall anyone giving Machida any shit when he was busted.
Machida is very likeable....TJ has as many haters as he does fans.