Ppl hard on TJ compared 2 other fighters busted

Erik Apple - This is more of a question then a statement.

Im curious why people are shitting on TJ more then Jon, or other fighters who have pissed hot?

IS using EPO worse then taking test? Is it not as bad? Im curious what people think…

I just feel like TJ is being abused online more then other fighters in his position. I dont think he has been in any trouble before…

Test is to help recovery so you can train more. Sure, it also puts on muscle mass too but then a fighter will have to cut weight & suffer muscle wastage. It’s more about recovery.

EPO is just about stamina. Go harder for longer.

Erik Apple - This is more of a question then a statement.

Im curious why people are shitting on TJ more then Jon, or other fighters who have pissed hot?

IS using EPO worse then taking test? Is it not as bad? Im curious what people think…

I just feel like TJ is being abused online more then other fighters in his position. I dont think he has been in any trouble before…

How do you measure who got shitted on more?

Jones still gets shitted on daily. 

Kimbos Lice -

I don't recall anyone giving Machida any shit when he was busted.  

machida was seemingly on the downswing of his career. TJ is the reigning champion talking about going up and down in weight and getting belts. public perception-wise thats very fucking different.

Does anyone respect Jon as much as they did before his arrests or test results? I think not.

As far as test vs EPO is concerned, I don’t think one is necessary worse than the other, but with EPO there’s no possibility it’s coming from a tainted supplement. Further, EPO is FAR less common and requires much more planning/knowledge/skill to cheat using it. Plus TJ’s greatest weapon is his endurance and he’s used it to beat many fighters. EPO is a huge factor in cardio capability.

I don’t care if people juice, I’d rather they all just do it. It’s just cunty when they talk shit about juicers then get caught themselves. I’d never say a word about it unless asked about it if I was on some shit. 

I’m definitely gonna start taking TRT when I hit my late 30s and start feeling like a low energy old POS.

But taking TRT while you’re competing in a combat sport is cheating because you’re giving yourself the energy of a young man with the experience of an old man. 

That being said TRT isn’t as bad as other PEDs and EPO is the worst from what I know. 

Can’t stand TJ, but gotta agree. The continued use of words like disgraced by Kirik is quite odd when he’s happy to put up articles showing people like Ortega & Mendes in a great light. 

Having said that, TJ has conducted himself as an obnoxious, arrogant individual throughout his career. So maybe the journalists and others in the industry think it couldn’t happen to a nicer guy, and I’ve gotta agree there.

Just a shame the cheats that get caught out his badly don’t get an instant life ban 

Because people can deal without TJ fighting. But us as fans want to see the GOAT keep fighting with many more possible/fun match-ups.

Just like how we all liked PRIDE fighters I guess, we just didn’t give a shit they were all on gas.

I don’t feel TJ’s getting more shit from anyone other than the UFC and USADA. I respect him for owning it and taking his two years, not taking some bullshit “pulsing” excuse and lying to his fans.

Hes not getting more shit.

If anything its more that the fans are freaking out more because fighters have fanboys that delusionally just say dumb shit like “who cares” and “they all do it” simply because THEIR favorite fighter is a drug cheat. They try to deflect and downplay solely because its “their guy.”

So that attitude is in turn pissing off the rest of us who are just sick and tired of these guys testing hot when they know god damn well they are being tested in one of the more transparent testing situations on earth (as in you test often and your reputation is rightfully ruined if you pop as the world finds out fairly quickly).

Its NOT just that they are cheating that is making these increasingly harder to “look past.” Its the fact that these dumb fucks KNOW how much testing there is and also that USADA adds new testing methods every few months, and STILL are too terrified to risk fighting clean and losing. Its disgusting.

To me it also shows they were always cheating. Because if you could cheat knowing all that, you were DEFINITELY cheating when it was lax as fuck and easy to juice and fight.

TexDeuce - 
Darth Potato -
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TJ's entitlement is absolutely off the charts in comparison, especially considering he was iniecting EPO. He was literally just on ESPN after losing to Cejudo, in tears because he felt the ref "cheated" him. He was absolutely beside himself. I mean, the nerve to cheat like that is one thing. To then complain publicly about ANYTHING being fair or unfair is just. I cant even. He looks like an absolute psychopath. 

Ok and you don’t think Cejudo is juicing???

Get fucking real, look at the guy.  They’re all on the sauce.  You can’t do 5 hours of cardio every day and maintain that muscle mass without some help.

Yeah i mean there is that but at the very least we don't know for sure with Cejudo or at least he knows how to cycle properly. There are many people you suspect like Pettis and Weidman based on their careers tanking after USADA but until they pop you really can't say shit. 

Yeah but those two you mentioned probably will never pop because I think they’re natural now post USADA.

but i don’t get why people are freaking out over T.J. popping.  So what the guy isn’t as good at cycling as his opponents are.

Not everyone is juicing you idiot. 

What’s most shocking is at least one person was actually juicing Darth Potato. Gross!

Jon should be shit on more than TJ, pissed hot multiple times and is allowed to continue to fight whilst cheating.

Both should be shit on for cheating however.

Erik Apple - This is more of a question then a statement.

Im curious why people are shitting on TJ more then Jon, or other fighters who have pissed hot?

IS using EPO worse then taking test? Is it not as bad? Im curious what people think…

I just feel like TJ is being abused online more then other fighters in his position. I dont think he has been in any trouble before…

They should all be shit on equally. They should each be feed the exact same amount of shit.

LawlerPushedInMyBrownEye -
Erik Apple - This is more of a question then a statement.

Im curious why people are shitting on TJ more then Jon, or other fighters who have pissed hot?

IS using EPO worse then taking test? Is it not as bad? Im curious what people think…

I just feel like TJ is being abused online more then other fighters in his position. I dont think he has been in any trouble before…

How do you measure who got shitted on more?

Jones still gets shitted on daily. 

This.  Jones catches heat on here every conversation that is either about him or PED’s in general.  Jones gets flamed every day on here.  TJ was catching heat without anyone knowing about failed drug tests because a lot of people don’t like how smug he is.

I don’t get why so many people say EPO is worse that other PEDs. Of course it’s cheating, and it gives quite an edge in cardio, which is quite important in MMA - though I’d say most of the under 155 guys might not even need it!

But steroids that make you train harder, punch way harder, etc. that seems worse to me.

Anyway, all a shitshow LOL. Yes I understand the need for testing, but it still sucks all these suspensions and bouts cancelled. Costa was taken off a card simply for not reporting he tok a medication for stomach issues! Come on. And how people quickly forget Nick Diaz got FIVE YEARS for marijuana!

Let me get this straight. Some of you are saying.....

If you're in the early or midst of your career and you cheat, you're a piece of shit

But if you're at the tail end, it's fine? 

Erik Apple -

Does the fact TJ didnt try and fight this or lie, help him keep some self respect?

Imo it does.  Every fighter I have ever heard of has made excuses for testing positive.  Him and I think Tim Sylvia are like the only ones that admitted it.  At least I think tj admitted it.  

Because TJ is an unlikable narcissistic dickwad and the schadenfruede feels good, man 

I don't get the OP's question at all. Jones get ripped to shreds here, as does anyone who buys in to the ridiculous excuses for his doping violations. 

big_slacker -

I don't get the OP's question at all. Jones get ripped to shreds here, as does anyone who buys in to the ridiculous excuses for his doping violations. 

I feel like TJ is getting a lot of heat even though many other fighters have been busted, and some of them multiple times, like Jon