Private Lessons?

 Some questions about private lessons, need feedback please.



Do you normally let the instructor pick what they would like to cover or do you go with an agenda? 

Most you have paid for a private lesson? 

Average you pay for a private lesson?

Do you take privates with elite instructors when you travel? 

Who have you taken private lessons with and what was the experience like?



Also any Important stuff about private lessons I didn't ask and you would like to add is appreciated.





 

  1. Asked what he thought I needed to work on,
    he knows more than I do

    2. 100.

    3. Depends on who you're training with

    4. No, not "elite", I can't afford those guys

 1. Most of the time, unless the instructor has rolled with me alot and knows my weakest points (ideal), I    like to choose what we review



2. $200



3. Varies too much to have an "average", but if i had to pick an amount....I would say 50


I have one every week with my instructor; £35.

It allows him to go through the minor details that he simply doesn't have time to enforce during a class. And he gets one of his blues to help so he can stand back and watch to pick up on small errors.

We tend to discuss agenda, either I'll have something in particular to go through that bugs me or he'll advise me on what's being covered in the class after to help me benefit beforehand.

The most I've paid is £75 for Braulio. I know Roger Gracie is £100.

I try to get privates when on my travels, just to experience different people, techniques and I guess from a fan's perspective to say you've rolled with them. Hoping to roll with Jason Tan in July and then Vinny Malghares and Robert Drysdale in Vegas in October.

*Magalhaes - shitty spellcheck. Phone Post

Q: Do you normally let the instructor pick what they would like to cover or do you go with an agenda?

A: I think the person should be able to request what they want to learn, after all, I could be going over a bunch of BS that you already know, or are not interested on learning. (in case if you're not my student, but if you are, i'd let you know the things I think you should be working on)

 

Q: Most you have paid for a private lesson? 

A: I know guys like Dan Henderson and few others charge $400+/hour, because they don't really like to teach privates classes (or even regular classes), so they try to make their time worth. In my opinion no private class is worth more than $150/hour, and that's already a high price. I personally never took one single private class from any instructor that I trained under (Vini Aieta and Royler Gracie), all I needed to do was to ask a question or two before or after classes and they would answer my questions and show me what I wanted to know. Private classes are awesome resources for those who can't make at the gym in the regular hours but still want to train, other than that... It won't give you much more than a regular class would. Answering the question though, I never paid for a private class.



 

Q: Average you pay for a private lesson?

In my opinion privates shouldn't go any lower than $50/hour or higher than $150/hour



Q: Do you take privates with elite instructors when you travel? 

No



Q: Who have you taken private lessons with and what was the experience like?

Nobody



  

Privates helped me evolve tremendously. I got to workout and drill whatever I wanted. For 3 years, I was doing 2 privates a week on top of 3-5 group classes a week. I noticed that the group classes right after my private class would go that much easier because I got to apply what I drilled and worked on a short while before. Added bonus, instructor would work on things with me that he didn't in the regular class due to time and skill constraints. So my game evolved very differently from the group class members.

Cost about 90 dollars per session. Worth every penny!
Most expensive: Marcelo Garcia at the time 250 dollars.

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Vinny Magalhães - Q: Do you normally let the instructor pick what they would like to cover or do you go with an agenda?

A: I think the person should be able to request what they want to learn, after all, I could be going over a bunch of BS that you already know, or are not interested on learning. (in case if you're not my student, but if you are, i'd let you know the things I think you should be working on)

 

Q: Most you have paid for a private lesson? 

A: I know guys like Dan Henderson and few others charge $400+/hour, because they don't really like to teach privates classes (or even regular classes), so they try to make their time worth. In my opinion no private class is worth more than $150/hour, and that's already a high price. I personally never took one single private class from any instructor that I trained under (Vini Aieta and Royler Gracie), all I needed to do was to ask a question or two before or after classes and they would answer my questions and show me what I wanted to know. Private classes are awesome resources for those who can't make at the gym in the regular hours but still want to train, other than that... It won't give you much more than a regular class would. Answering the question though, I never paid for a private class.



 

Q: Average you pay for a private lesson?

In my opinion privates shouldn't go any lower than $50/hour or higher than $150/hour



Q: Do you take privates with elite instructors when you travel? 

No



Q: Who have you taken private lessons with and what was the experience like?

Nobody

  
What if it was Rickson would you pay $400 for an hour to train with him?   by the way kick butt in ADCC and thanks for posting Vinny

 


 No. $400 is just too much. and the same way I've had questions answered by Royler and Vini, I had by Rickson at Gracie Humaita and didn't have to pay for. 
I'm a cheap bastard!  haha 

That's why I don't charge much for privates, and usually I only do privates with people that are not 'regulars' in my group classes. People from out of town for example, or guys that can't make in the regular hours at the gym. 

 Thanks for the input so far everyone especially Vinny.  When at home I  normally just ask my main instructor the questions I have and get the answers  without needing a private.  My questions were more pertained to taking private lessons when I travel.   Maybe the value of private lessons is less then I thought.  I was planning on taking privates with the best instructors in the area whenever I travel in the future.   Maybe I am better suited just dropping in on the group classes and getting more bang for the buck.  That being said, Vinny can you lock me in with a $50hr private for next time I come to Vegas?Haha

if your ever in torrance i can get you a 50.00 private with 1 of rorions bb's.

three stand out.

1. Rob Kahn (royce bb - at the time he was a brown. a long overdue brown)
dude has been putting in work for a while. that whole "smash the head/neck" pressure game that was shown recently here - he was doing that back in '03 when i did privates w/ him then. he really has an awesome game and teaches well. i still use his shit to this day at a high percentage. he worked on what i wanted but an 1hr turned into 1.5 to 2 hours and the price was the same. this was in '03 so he might have wisened up and charge what he's worth.. he did work on what i wanted and then also showed things he really liked that work for whomever.

2. Carlos Machado
Helped get my traditional butterfly and hook sweep game better as well as some great details for when i'm on top or passing. he knows a lot. his details are really simple and necessary. i use that stuff a lot. that portion of the private was what i wanted to work on... he spent an hour rolling w/ me from various positions. maybe 4-5 six minute rolling sessions where he forced me to use what he just showed. he then would stop between sessions and fine tune and we'd roll again. i don't remember the price for any of them. i know it was pricier than the others but it was worth it.

3. Alexey Cruz Pickerell (delariva bb)
He was cheaper than the others but he was also there for a seminar. i paid for a private the night before the seminar. i specifically wanted de la riva details so i got that out of him... he then showed details for guard passing.
he showed things he's seen from his mentors that he thought would be good for me. something from margarida, other things from liborio... etc. it was pretty neet. he talked about how those guys would kick the shit out of everyone and then showed me some of the finer details. SIMPLE things but overlooked.

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I have taken three from Carlos Machado he has helped to improve my game. AS you stated very detailed. His hook sweeps game helped me and my friends games. And he is a great person

Over past few months, I've tried a private session or 2 a week with the Asst coach at my gym. I've learned sum interesting details to sweeps, but sometimes feel he is showing me moves instead of teaching strategy and details. But he was a golden gloves champ back in day, so added bonus I've really got him to focus on my hands, cost: 200 for a 10 pack of sessions, or 35 an hr. Cheap ;-) Phone Post

12-would it ever be possible to arrange a private with Rorion?

FatBuddha - 12-would it ever be possible to arrange a private with Rorion?






i could ask,the kids know u, is it worth the money?

Did a seminar with him years ago - he's pretty amazing. Just didn't know if he was still teaching privates.

  1. Generally if it is an instructor I know or train with I have an area in mind that I need work on. If it is a high level instructor it depends. Perhaps I will go in with the plan on working on one of the areas that the instyructor excels at. Alternatively I may ask to roll with them for 15minutes and had have them critique me and dictate what they think I need to work on.

    2. US$300 (Marcelo Garcia and it was worth every dollar!)

    3. $120 average

    4. Yes definitely. I take every opportunity to train with high level guys when I can if I am travelling.

    5. Far too many to mention but I'll just mention 3 of the best! They are:
    -Marcelo Garcia - A phenomenal instructor with the ability to analyse and break down his techniques and fit them into your game! Very humble, always eager to help you and genuinely cares that you understand what he is teaching and can apply the techniques. That and he is unbelieveable to roll with(learnt more in one roll/smashing :-) than I had in a month) Highly recommended!
    -Mario Sperry - Again another phenomenal BJJ instructor who has helped produce many of the best in the BJJ and MMA world. Excellent in depth explanation of stategy, technique and timing for your techniques and developing your OWN game! Also Highly recommended!
    -Robert Follis - Fantastic MMA coach, very knowledgeable yet open minded and a real student of the game. A master coach particularly if you are interested in MMA or coaching fighters. Again I cant recommend him highly enough!

    6. I think it really depends on who you plan on taking a private with. Some people are better teachers, some are better fighters and the vary rare few can do both so it pays to have a plan on what you would like to work on in advance just in case the instructor doesn't have a plan or isn't a great coach. Also one of the things I like to do is ask about the instructor's specialty ie Marcelo taking the back, setting up Mata Leon, Passing Guard and North South Choke. Or leg attacks froma leg attack specialist, Guard Passing from Ze mario etc!

    I hope that helps! :-)


Do you normally let the instructor pick what they would like to cover or do you go with an agenda?

Almost always go in with an agenda

Most you have paid for a private lesson?

$250/hr

Average you pay for a private lesson? $150

Do you take privates with elite instructors when you travel?

Ya

Who have you taken private lessons with and what was the experience like? Royce, Andre Galvao, Jonathan Burke. All were great experiences. Crucial to getting better for me.

Also any Important stuff about private lessons I didn't ask and you would like to add is appreciated.

sounds like you just need to get tighten up,find any bb and roll with them,most likely they will correct many of the things u already do.

Robert Drysdale charges 300 an hour.... Phone Post