http://fightnetwork.com/news/mma/laws-ufc-144-post-show-w-stephen-quadros/
SMFH.
How about "FightMetric is for whiners trying to justify why they think their favorite fighter got robbed when in all actuality numbers don't mean jack shit" instead?
Wow so moronic
Point fighters would take over.
Quadros: Derp
For fight metric to even be accurate (which it isn't anyway), don't they claim to take hours to tabulate the data for a fight while multiple humans analyse the fight in slow motion? Waiting hours or days for results would literally ruin the sport.
The easier solution is for the judges to stop arbitrarily picking a winner on close rounds. Round 3 (Edgar-Bendo) was very close, those who gave it to Edgar had him winning, and those who gave it to Bendo gave him the nod. It was a draw and the fight was a draw. We always see these controversies as people flip coins to pick the winner of a drawn round, and having a computer flip the coin with partially correct data will not help.
One big advantage to a metric scoring the fight, is it takes out some of the subjectivity for "damage". Some people would say that Bendo did a lot of damage to Frankie throughout the fight, but the damage was mostly all done in the 2nd round with the upkick. Since the fights are scored by the round, a judge has to put previous damage from rounds aside when judging the next one, which is obviously a very difficult thing to do.
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Gobulcoque - I would prefer random people off the street over Fightmetric or Judges they have now.
Indeed, current judging is so poor that saying FightMetric would be better is not a big statement to make. It very likely would be better, although it's not a feasible solution because, as nnwourgeet says, they take a long time to tabulate data.
They even change stuff weeks afterwards (I remember them saying they watched Shogun-Machida I a gazillion times and I noticed minor changes in the numbers a long while after the fight happened).
Unlike FightMetric Compustrike is live, however Compustrike is nowhere near as good as FightMetric. Compustrike would completely suck as a way of scoring fights. Just look at GSP-Shields and Overeem-Werdum for instance. Compustrike doesn't take power into account as well as Fightmetric, thus the standup in those fights was deemed close in terms of pure volume. But any human who saw those fights could see that GSP and Overeem easily won the standup due to power. Compustrike can't see that.
The problem is a fundamental flaw is using a scoring system from boxing, which is made for 6-8-10 round fights, not 3 rounds.
I still think it would be much better to do away with round-by-round scoring, and ask the judges one simple question: "Were the fight to continue, who do you THINK would have won?"
This is the question every viewer asks themselves. This would align judging better with what the common sense decisions are.
PR - I still think it would be much better to do away with round-by-round scoring, and ask the judges one simple question: "Were the fight to continue, who do you THINK would have won?"
This is the question every viewer asks themselves. This would align judging better with what the common sense decisions are.
This is a very poor question. What matters is what happened, not what would have happened in the future.
The better question to ask after each round is, "Which fighter would you rather have been?" That's an old adage used in boxing and it's a good one. If more judges applied it, a lot of the huge overweighting of meaningless takedowns and worthless top control would be eliminated.
But yes, the lack of rounds in MMA does mean that it should have much more varied scoring - rather than every fucking round being 10-9. For a 10 round fight that might end up being OK but for a 3 rounder it gives fucked up results with extreme frequency. Way too many fights where the fighter who was clearly superior over the course of the full 15 minutes, lost the fight because his opponent barely edged out 2 of 3 rounds.
they could do what they did at the olympics for boxing after rjr was robbed; have a system where all three judges have to hit a buzzer (maybe within .5 sec) at the same time there is a power hit or takedown.
maybe now is the time for this after melendez vs thompson III?
fightmetric calls it right more often than the judges do
No.
just give judges access to fightmetric data and you get the best of both worlds.
If FightMetric meant jack shit you'd say Gil won the fight running away. Clearly that didn't happen. Mauro wouldn't have even agreed with it if FightMetric scored that fight...lol.