Red Light Camera Ticket *Question*

ximboredofyoux -
flying_flamingo_kick - 
Pugilist82 -
angryinch - 
xDODZILLAx - Fight it in court. Cameras cant prove it was you driving. Ask to question your accuser (the camera). Phone Post 3.0


If it's a non moving violation they don't have to prove who was driving, only that the car was actually there.  It's basically no different than a parking ticket.  If you lend your car to someone and they get a parking ticket, the owner of the car is still responsible for the ticket.  


Pretty much this. From what I understand, like a parking ticket it is considered a civil matter and not criminal and therefore the same rules do not apply. It amazes me that these are not banned, they have proven themselves to INCREASE accidents.
They installed them in school zones in Nassau County (long island) for like 2 months then they disabled them because enough people complained about it and how there were never accidents in the school zones till the cameras were put in Phone Post 3.0

Tell me about it, I pass East Meadow High School on my way to work and I got hit with like 5 within a couple weeks. They were hitting me with 5 mph over. Then a letter came shortly after saying that they were all dismissed.

Good thing I wait until the last minute to pay these kinds of things.
I got hit at turtle hook middle school (Uniondale) at 1130 am when they know damn well sure there are no kids out at that time. I understand if it's arrival and departure but the middle of the school day? Phone Post 3.0

flying_flamingo_kick -
ximboredofyoux -
flying_flamingo_kick - 
Pugilist82 -
angryinch - 
xDODZILLAx - Fight it in court. Cameras cant prove it was you driving. Ask to question your accuser (the camera). Phone Post 3.0


If it's a non moving violation they don't have to prove who was driving, only that the car was actually there.  It's basically no different than a parking ticket.  If you lend your car to someone and they get a parking ticket, the owner of the car is still responsible for the ticket.  


Pretty much this. From what I understand, like a parking ticket it is considered a civil matter and not criminal and therefore the same rules do not apply. It amazes me that these are not banned, they have proven themselves to INCREASE accidents.
They installed them in school zones in Nassau County (long island) for like 2 months then they disabled them because enough people complained about it and how there were never accidents in the school zones till the cameras were put in Phone Post 3.0

Tell me about it, I pass East Meadow High School on my way to work and I got hit with like 5 within a couple weeks. They were hitting me with 5 mph over. Then a letter came shortly after saying that they were all dismissed.

Good thing I wait until the last minute to pay these kinds of things.
I got hit at turtle hook middle school (Uniondale) at 1130 am when they know damn well sure there are no kids out at that time. I understand if it's arrival and departure but the middle of the school day? Phone Post 3.0
Could be considered a playground zone, which around where I live that means dawn until dusk it's a slow zone. Phone Post 3.0

I'm in Ohio.  It says on the back I can "request a hearing Date and appear before a Hearing Officer by returning the completed form within 30 days. "

 

 

Is the hearing officer a court appointed officer? 

 

 

 

Most of the time there should be a website where you can type in a code on the ticket to view a video clip of the infraction. I dont know about your state, but here in Louisiana, if you do not pay it all they can do is boot your car if they catch you. As far as saying someone else was driving the car, you basically have to rat them out and give them their information to be able to say it wasnt you. Just stating "I wasnt driving" is not good enough.

In St. Louis if you don't pay nothing happens. Can't prove it was you driving. There's a pending court case going back and forth if the city will have to repay those who actually paid. Phone Post 3.0

Damn there's camera for speeding? I only seen cameras for turning on red or running a light, never for speeding. Live in philly btw Phone Post 3.0

xDODZILLAx - Fight it in court. Cameras cant prove it was you driving. Ask to question your accuser (the camera). Phone Post 3.0
This, they don't even allow them in Mn for this reason. Phone Post 3.0

Gojjira -
flying_flamingo_kick -
ximboredofyoux -
flying_flamingo_kick - 
Pugilist82 -
angryinch - 
xDODZILLAx - Fight it in court. Cameras cant prove it was you driving. Ask to question your accuser (the camera). Phone Post 3.0


If it's a non moving violation they don't have to prove who was driving, only that the car was actually there.  It's basically no different than a parking ticket.  If you lend your car to someone and they get a parking ticket, the owner of the car is still responsible for the ticket.  


Pretty much this. From what I understand, like a parking ticket it is considered a civil matter and not criminal and therefore the same rules do not apply. It amazes me that these are not banned, they have proven themselves to INCREASE accidents.
They installed them in school zones in Nassau County (long island) for like 2 months then they disabled them because enough people complained about it and how there were never accidents in the school zones till the cameras were put in Phone Post 3.0

Tell me about it, I pass East Meadow High School on my way to work and I got hit with like 5 within a couple weeks. They were hitting me with 5 mph over. Then a letter came shortly after saying that they were all dismissed.

Good thing I wait until the last minute to pay these kinds of things.
I got hit at turtle hook middle school (Uniondale) at 1130 am when they know damn well sure there are no kids out at that time. I understand if it's arrival and departure but the middle of the school day? Phone Post 3.0
Could be considered a playground zone, which around where I live that means dawn until dusk it's a slow zone. Phone Post 3.0
How can a speeding ticket which obviously indicates movement be a non moving violation? If its a non moving violation then you werent moving therefore not possible to be speeding. There has to be a way out of that b.s. Phone Post 3.0

I got a red light camera ticket in Santa Monica.  It was a rental car in my name but I wasn't driving; a co-worker was.  The picture showed both of us in the car.  I ended up in front of a detective (the fuck right!?!) refusing to name who she was.  It got heated; he didn't like it....................I ended up not getting a ticket or paying the fine.  Fuck em.

If it's a speeding ticket (which I've never heard of) camera violation I would definitely fight it.  Request to see the maintanence record and the most recent time it was calibrated; which again I haven't heard of.

Al Cappucino -
Golden Stater - 
TFK_Geoff G Electric - I've fought 3 and won them all Phone Post 3.0
What was the process to fight it? I just got one and its a $500 ticket and says I have to do traffic school.... I don't want to do that. Phone Post 3.0


What th ehell were you doing to get a $500 ticket and forced traffic school?

Well traffic school isn't forced I worded that badly. I just ran a red light at 6 in the morning g on the way to work. This was in Fremont, Ca where the tickets are always expensive for camera violations. Phone Post 3.0

<blockquote>TFK_Geoff G Electric - <span id='userPost54930568' class='User-306064'>I've fought 3 and won them all <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post 3.0" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/></span></blockquote><br /> I've beat two. Simply by saying it wasn't me. Both were dropped.<br />

edit. actually i ignored one, was threatened. But, that was the end of it.

Sogsteel - 
Al Cappucino - 
Sogsteel - Where did you get it? Lots of people in LA just ignore them since apparently they cant do shit if you don't acknowledge it


A lot of those people have shitty credit and apparantly don't give a shit.


WTF does credit have to do with anything?

http://www.laweekly.com/news/everything-you-need-to-know-about-ignoring-red-light-camera-tickets-5146123

"So, cutting right to the chase: You can still ignore them with little consequence, experts say. And, no, a recent California Supreme Court red-light camera ruling in People v. Goldsmith does not change that, our sources say.

We hope that this update will allow you to carry on without emailing us for legal advice (we don't have time to respond--sorry) or asking one of our experts if a certain area qualifies as being within L.A. County (get a map!). Here's pretty much everything you need to know about ignoring L.A.'s red-light camera tickets:

-- Yes, you can still ignore L.A.'s red-light camera tickets with little consequence, says Southern California attorney Mark A. Gallagher.

In this instance, L.A. is defined as any jurisdiction or city within Los Angeles County. If you don't know what that is, see this. So you got a red-light camera ticket from park police or an odd-sounding municipality? If the ticket asks you to respond to an L.A. County Superior Court branch, then, yes, this applies, Gallagher says."

Not everyone lives in L.A. Here in N.Y......

?Failure to pay the fine or to contest liability prior to the due date of the Notice of Liability is an admission of liability, and failure to appear at a hearing after having requested a hearing is an admission of liability and constitutes a waiver of the right to appeal.
?Failure to pay the fine by the due date will result in the imposition of an additional late-payment fee of $25. If the fine is not paid after the second notice date, collections proceedings may commence and the New York State Department of Motor Vehicles may be notified to place a hold on your registration activity.

PoiuPoiu - 


How can they prove you received the ticket?



 



Do you sign for it when it comes in the mail?



I received one a year ago. It had multiple pics showing my truck with an exploded view of the plate, It showed m e in the turn lane stopped at the red light, then showed me turning. Next to each pic was a time stamp and evidently i didn't wait the 5 seconds you are supposed to when turning on red (I never knew that prior to this).



I just sent a check in to avoid any hassle.



Not too long ago (here on Long Island), some guy was going around with a pole pushing the cameras to face skywards. Very cool of him to do, but very stupid of him to go bragging about on FB.

I've gotten several of these in the mail, and I just throw them away. The only way anything can happen is if you get formally served by somebody in person. When they knock on your door, just ignore them, and thats that.