Rental car, cops called me for what I left in it..

Call a lawyer now. Because if they can't get the guy who had the car before you, they are for sure coming after you. Be prepared that they may be getting a warrant to search your property. Make sure there is nothing in your house that may be the slightest bit illegal. Even if you do offer prints and DNA, if they come back clean they may still go after you. Phone Post 3.0

Mayfield - Oh my god. Why would you even take a guess at what the needle were used for? Had you gotten it right the first time they would for sure have used that against you. Even now they can twist what you said around and say that you knew what they were used for with out being told. Alway get a lawyer, expecially if you are innocent. Phone Post 3.0

Reminds me of Ralph Maccio in My Cousin Vinny

"I shot the Clerk.....I shot the Clerk"

OP thinks he's being funny....Officer thinks she just got a confession.

He done fucked up.

Mayfield - Call a lawyer now. Because if they can't get the guy who had the car before you, they are for sure coming after you. Be prepared that they may be getting a warrant to search your property. Make sure there is nothing in your house that may be the slightest bit illegal. Even if you do offer prints and DNA, if they come back clean they may still go after you. Phone Post 3.0

?? You're talking like the Cops have put innocent folks in jail before. Like that's ever happened to close a case. Get real bub. ;)

CuddleBug - 


I rented a car for two days last week. After I cleaned our stuff out of it, there was a plastic bag in the corner of the trunk. I went to check it out, but there was a smaller bag of black bolts sitting on top of it, so I figured it was parts for the car and I closed the trunk and returned it.



About a half hour later I look at my phone and I had two missed calls from the same number and one voice mail. It was from the police station and they wanted me to call them. I called and she asked me if I had rented the car. "Yes". If I was in possession of the car the entire time. "Yes".



Did I forget anything in the car? "No, I don't think so."



Well you did leave something and I need you to come in and talk about it.



Me: "Is it something illegal?"



Her: "Yes."



Me: "Was it in the trunk?"



Her: "Yes."



Me: "In a plastic bag?"



Her: "Yes."



Me: "Yeah, that isn't mine..."



I know, probably a great example of why one should have a lawyer!



 



cont'd


The fuck is wrong with you?

Answering "Yes" to renting the car is fine, after that don't answer s goddamn thing!!


"Were you in possession of the car the entire time??" Only when driving.

"Did you forget anything in the car?" Nope. I have all my stuff thanks.

"Well you did leave something and I need you to come in and talk about it." LOL!!! No thanks. I'm good. As I said I didn't forget anything. Have a good day.



Trust the system. It'll take care of you as long as you are honest.



-LakerUp

Everyone calm down. First off, it was found in a rental car. It's definitely not outside the realm of possibilities they were left by a previous renter... and the authorities know that.

Second, any questioning NOT under oath is inadmissible in court. The police are trying to build a case against him and hoped he would confess. If he would have, they would have taken him into custody formally and then conducted a sworn statement after being mirandized, wherein they would expect a formal confession.

Lastly, if his fingerprints and DNA are not on the paraphernalia, there is no physical evidence that proves beyond a reasonable doubt that they are his. The rental company will surely have records of previous renters and will more than likely investigate those as well. Depending on the quantity and the state, a warrant can be obtained for the purpose of gathering DNA for analysis.

All the same, contact an attorney just for peace of mind. Phone Post 3.0

Getting a lawyer is pricey and a giant hassle. With that being said ( having been in LE), cops COUNT on people not knowing their rights and openly talking . They build and close a lot of cases this way.
Before I went into LE, I had a LOT of faith in our system. NOT AS MUCH NOW. The second I had an opening, I bounced.
"Let's talk " really means, " we are going to try and incriminate you"
Let me put it this way,,,,, when I was a PO, I didn't have many rich kids on my case load. The kids with lawyers RARELY saw the inside of a juvenile hall. Phone Post 3.0

I wouldn't want to deal with the inconvenience of this whole thing nor pay a lawyer, so I probably would've went down to the station too. I would have answered with yes and no's though.

frostyturd - Everyone calm down. First off, it was found in a rental car. It's definitely not outside the realm of possibilities they were left by a previous renter... and the authorities know that.

Second, any questioning NOT under oath is inadmissible in court. The police are trying to build a case against him and hoped he would confess. If he would have, they would have taken him into custody formally and then conducted a sworn statement after being mirandized, wherein they would expect a formal confession.

Lastly, if his fingerprints and DNA are not on the paraphernalia, there is no physical evidence that proves beyond a reasonable doubt that they are his. The rental company will surely have records of previous renters and will more than likely investigate those as well. Depending on the quantity and the state, a warrant can be obtained for the purpose of gathering DNA for analysis.

All the same, contact an attorney just for peace of mind. Phone Post 3.0

"Second, any questioning NOT under oath is inadmissible in court. The police are trying to build a case against him and hoped he would confess. If he would have, they would have taken him into custody formally and then conducted a sworn statement after being mirandized, wherein they would expect a formal confession. "


You don't have to be "under oath" for something you say to be admissible in court.

You should have asked for them back. Phone Post 3.0

It's not what anyone can charge.

It's what they can prove.

Never, ever, ever talk to anyone.

A guilty man isn't talking himself out of any charges but an innocent man sadly can talk himself into some.

Remember nobody REALLY cares about getting the right guy.

It's about getting a guy and closing the case.

For this car rental company this is exciting to them and it's clear they got a little too into this questioning and any cops will get even worse. Phone Post 3.0

billyball2 -
frostyturd - Everyone calm down. First off, it was found in a rental car. It's definitely not outside the realm of possibilities they were left by a previous renter... and the authorities know that.

Second, any questioning NOT under oath is inadmissible in court. The police are trying to build a case against him and hoped he would confess. If he would have, they would have taken him into custody formally and then conducted a sworn statement after being mirandized, wherein they would expect a formal confession.

Lastly, if his fingerprints and DNA are not on the paraphernalia, there is no physical evidence that proves beyond a reasonable doubt that they are his. The rental company will surely have records of previous renters and will more than likely investigate those as well. Depending on the quantity and the state, a warrant can be obtained for the purpose of gathering DNA for analysis.

All the same, contact an attorney just for peace of mind. Phone Post 3.0

"Second, any questioning NOT under oath is inadmissible in court. The police are trying to build a case against him and hoped he would confess. If he would have, they would have taken him into custody formally and then conducted a sworn statement after being mirandized, wherein they would expect a formal confession. "


You don't have to be "under oath" for something you say to be admissible in court.
For an interrogation with the purpose of soliciting a confession while in custody, whether voluntarily or not, yes... Yes you DO! Phone Post 3.0

For those that don't believe it. My story is true, but I've had my doubts that it was steroids also. At one point when she was holding the bag up, I saw a smaller bag in it with white tablets that looked like aspirin. I pointed at them and asked if that was the steroids. She said it was and I asked what the needles were for and she said there was a vial of liquid also in the bag. Then she shrugged and said she didn't really know anything about steroids. So I'm sure someone who knows about this stuff can confirm whether or not steroids come in a pill and you put it in liquid to inject it.

I'm not sure if they will follow up or not. I'm hoping they do backtrack on the car and find the person who left it so my name is cleared, but also so I have something to use to go and bitch at the rental company about. At this point all I can do is complain that I got accused and they'll just say they can't confirm that I wasn't the renter that left it in there.

If they are going full throttle on this, then I'd have no issue with getting a lawyer because then I'll make the rental company pay for when it's over, but I'm surprised some of you think they are still going to come after me and I need a lawyer right now, but I'm seriously considering it.

Sorry about the delay, I had to go to a meeting.

JeffersonDArcyChoke - It's not what anyone can charge.

It's what they can prove.

Never, ever, ever talk to anyone.

A guilty man isn't talking himself out of any charges but an innocent man sadly can talk himself into some.

Remember nobody REALLY cares about getting the right guy.

It's about getting a guy and closing the case.

For this car rental company this is exciting to them and it's clear they got a little too into this questioning and any cops will get even worse. Phone Post 3.0
Waiting, were you questioned by the rental company or legitimate authorities? Phone Post 3.0

BadDog - 
Mookie 3:16 -


So what was in the bag????????

My client has NO IDEA! Phone Post 3.0

(LOOOLO!)

"Officer, are we free to go?"


Arrest him on what? Some trumped up possession charge? I'll have him outta here by happy hour!

I was questioned by the police at the police station. The rental company called them after they found the bag.

My girlfriend was also questioned, but she was only shown a needle with white powder on it and they didn't tell her it was steroids. We had rented the car to take her out of state to a medical specialist because she's been extremely sick all year, so that is kind of where her conversation ended up going. It quickly ended after she explained that and I was thanked for coming in and we left.

I had a buddy that cleaned cars for Enterprise, and would find drugs and contraband in cars all the time. He would always just keep it for himself. Too bad he wasn't working. Pretty lame that the rental car company told the cops. Phone Post 3.0

dios - You shouldn't have answered any questions .... But now that you have, if they question you again, they need to read you your Miranda rights , and if they do, tell them you want to talk to a lawyer Phone Post 3.0


don't try to play attorney, it's dangerous

First and foremost: we can all learn a lesson from this.

Even as a cop, I almost got burned on something like a few years ago.

I sold a car to two young kids who brought it home to Canada. It went for well over Blue Book, but I still did not make a profit over what I paid for it.

I got a call from the border, asking how much they paid for it. Apparently, they made up a dummy receipt for Blue Book value in order to not get raped by the Canadian border charges.

I had nothing to do with it, but I'm VERY lucky that nothing bad came of it. I ended up taking like 4-5 phone calls from the tax collector with a badge--I should never have picked up the first one.

Lesson to everyone: THE SECOND POLICE START ASKING YOU QUESTIONS LIKE THAT, END THE CONVERSATION.

"Hang on one second, can I call you right back?" And then you don't call back.

Also, WE HAVE SOME HORRIBLE JAILHOUSE LAWYERS HERE. Questioning not under oath inadmissible? Got to be kidding. Same thing goes for Miranda.

Miranda requires CUSTODIAL INTERROGATION. You can be interrogated while not in custody, and it's all well and good. If you're free to leave, Miranda is not triggered.

Speaking of that... YOU SHOULD HAVE NO FURTHER CONTACT WITH THE POLICE.

This is a shit case for a low level possession amount of drugs to begin with. It's further shit because of some horrible chains of custody with regard to the evidence. If they waste investigatory resources trying to pursue this, it's clear that you are dealing with amateurs.

NO FURTHER CONTACT.