You can’t go limp when someone has you in a submission and expect it to not be stopped
Only way he was getting out of that hole-d was going limp dick
Yes, when you start messing with holding chokes past the unconscious state, you’re playing with brain damage.
I was cheering Ben’s victory before the Ref even called it.
You said it best, when you go limp the ref has to stop it.
He must’ve taken viagra to get that thumb up
Robbie pulled the ol Chiesa fake going asleep then act outraged when the ref stops it tactic. Limp=stop the fight. Only way to make the call there
I'm a master at going limp
Ringworm74 -I'm a master at going limp
Does Herb Dean break it up?
There's one legit example of why the argument for Robbie being out could be considered valid, which is the arm going limp, but then there's 4 examples as to why he wasn't.
Robbie was out b/c his hand went limp. Lone example. Not disputing it didn't look bad b/c initially I too thought he was out, but then when you look at the possiblities as to maybe he wasn't out, ie-
4 examples of Robbie tapping to chokes prior in his career
Bulldog chokes are extremely rare in high level mma
Every fight I can think of where the opponent napped instead of tapped, their unconscious bodies remained unconcious when the referee separated them, there wasn't any immediate protest
Robbie jumped up immediately protesting the stoppage.
I'm going to side with the 4 examples over the 1 example.
D241 - just to clarify, you do or do not agree with stoppage?
I agree W stoppage, but don't think he was out in hindsight. Don't think herb wrong to stop either. Robbie could have given thumbs up, instead of that going limp motion.
For me, I think the stoppage was proper considering what herb had to work with there. Also think herb Is saying "fuck." today.
Canooke -Ringworm74 -I'm a master at going limp
Does Herb Dean break it up?
Imagine how bad it would be if herb dean was in the room, and you’re trying to fuck the Mrs after sniffing copious amounts of marching powder! Fucking nightmare
Whether he was out or not doesn’t matter. When you go limp and it’s the same as tapping as far as I’m concerned.
Same as if a fighter got caught in a heel hook and screamed in terror.
If a fighter gets punched on the chin then goes limp to play possum the referee is going to stop it. Whether he was really out or not doesn’t matter.
Agreed
penaltykick -Canooke -Ringworm74 -I'm a master at going limp
Does Herb Dean break it up?
Imagine how bad it would be if herb dean was in the room, and you’re trying to fuck the Mrs after sniffing copious amounts of marching powder! Fucking nightmare
If you go limp Herb Dean tackles you off your woman. You don’t get to cuddle and ask her if that ever happened with her serious ex-boyfriend.
choadler -D241 - just to clarify, you do or do not agree with stoppage?
I agree W stoppage, but don't think he was out in hindsight. Don't think herb wrong to stop either. Robbie could have given thumbs up, instead of that going limp motion.
For me, I think the stoppage was proper considering what herb had to work with there. Also think herb Is saying "fuck." today.
I don't agree with it but it's somewhat understandable.
When Robbie's hand seemingly went limp, to me, that should have been an obvious sign he might be in danger and the referee should have intervined via lifting his arm to see if he responds.
Herb, seemingly had the exact same reaction but the two things that make the least amount of sense in this whole thing, is why did Robbie's hand drop seemingly as if it was limp, and what reaction was Herb expecting when he lifted Robbie's hand? When Herb lifted his hand, wouldn't that have been to see if Robbie was limp?
Amazing stoppage by herb