Rogan doesn't know "boxing"

forumnewb -
NineFightFour - 

Nate Diaz has literally been boxing longer than he's been doing mma, he grew up boxing, he spars with golden glove boxers regularly. Shut the fuck up you ignorant idiot

You obviously don’t know the definition of boxing.

There is even a video of Freddie Roach saying that the Diaz bros are not “boxers”. They can fight and they can punch. But they do not have boxing skills.

Pure boxing, such as what Mr. Roach instructs, is much different from MMA boxing. It is what it is. A typical boxing stance can get you taken down easily. They have to adjust. I will agree that Diaz looping punches aren’t text book, but if they land and cause damage, that’s good boxing if I’m being fair. It’s isn’t pretty. But it works. 

jcblass - The Diaz bothers are tough, but they game the system by fighting guys half their size. Today's fight looked like Nate fighting some smaller child. Hardly an even match. I bet Nate walks around at 200 pounds.

Seriously??

Joe knows more about boxing history than spinning shit. Listen to his MMA podcasts.

Floyd'sPeehole -
forumnewb - He keeps saying Nate has great boxing.

Wrong.

Nate does not have boxing skills.

He can punch. He can fight. And he’s a tough sob, but he does not have boxing skills.

Boxing is about angles and swimming without getting wet.

Swimming without getting wet? So boxing is about simething that isnt possible then? You clearly dont know boxing yourself. Everyone gets wet when they go swimming. And diaz has world class boxers sparring with him who says the has legit boxing skills. Im sure your wikipedia knowledge is better than what world class boxers such as andre ward think. 

Exactly lol

Soul Gravy -
Floyd'sPeehole - 
forumnewb - He keeps saying Nate has great boxing.

Wrong.

Nate does not have boxing skills.

He can punch. He can fight. And he’s a tough sob, but he does not have boxing skills.

Boxing is about angles and swimming without getting wet.

Swimming without getting wet? So boxing is about simething that isnt possible then? You clearly dont know boxing yourself. Everyone gets wet when they go swimming. And diaz has world class boxers sparring with him who says the has legit boxing skills. Im sure your wikipedia knowledge is better than what world class boxers such as andre ward think. 

He has zero defense and only one direction in his footwork. He’s a high volume, accurate striker who can take one to give one. But he doesn’t have great boxing.

So did Margarito

Freddie Roach once said that Nick had the best hands in MMA, but that GSP's boxing was better. I think it was a good distinction.

Any way you cut it, the Diaz’s hands mean they have unusually good boxing for MMA. But their skillset is not very rounded.

It's Nate's style of boxing. Is it textbook? No. Does it work? Yes.

 

Would you train someone to box like Roy Jones Jr? I hope not. Roy's style was very specific to his abilities. 

 

You can't teach Roy's reflexes and quickness from his prime years and you can't teach Nate's durable beard. 

 

But MMA isn't boxing obviously.

Anyone who proclaims Lomachenko as the GOAT in boxing DKSAB.

Swimming without getting wet.

 

Pretentious douche alert!

OG2006 - 
jcblass - The Diaz bothers are tough, but they game the system by fighting guys half their size. Today's fight looked like Nate fighting some smaller child. Hardly an even match. I bet Nate walks around at 200 pounds.

Seriously??

Did you see the size differential? Everyone from Lt. Heavyweight down calling out Conor, who is a fucking munchkin featherweight.

OP boxing in a cage wont look the same as boxing in the ring

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Eskimo -

His footwork was terrible tonight. He looked drunk. Usually he looks much more fluid.

He always looks like that.  Both Diaz boys are really uncoordinated and unathletic for professional athletes.  They do have tremendous cardio, chins and conditioning tho and that is how they win fights, by simply absorbing punishment and keep the pressure coming.  Both Conor fights early on showed just how clumy and poor Nate's boxing was, but he kept taking huge shots and coming, and soon enough a fast twitched sprinter was being asked to compete in a marathon with a marathon runner.  If anything, the Diaz bros proved that slow twitch fighters could have just as much success as fast twitched fighters - something we were again reminded of in the Stipe fight.

ImNotSurprisedDonks - 
Eskimo -

His footwork was terrible tonight. He looked drunk. Usually he looks much more fluid.

He always looks like that.  Both Diaz boys are really uncoordinated and unathletic for professional athletes.  They do have tremendous cardio, chins and conditioning tho and that is how they win fights, by simply absorbing punishment and keep the pressure coming.  Both Conor fights early on showed just how clumy and poor Nate's boxing was, but he kept taking huge shots and coming, and soon enough a fast twitched sprinter was being asked to compete in a marathon with a marathon runner.  If anything, the Diaz bros proved that slow twitch fighters could have just as much success as fast twitched fighters - something we were again reminded of in the Stipe fight.

“Diaz bros proved that slow twitch fighters could have just as much success as fast twitched fighters”

Yes.

If you don’t have speed, then you better have :

Endurance

Chin

Balls

jcblass - The Diaz bothers are tough, but they game the system by fighting guys half their size. Today's fight looked like Nate fighting some smaller child. Hardly an even match. I bet Nate walks around at 200 pounds.

This is some troll shit right here considering 

A - Nate doesn't even fucking cut weight???

B - Any sane person who watched the fight or even the weigh ins can clearly see the difference in size between Pettis and Diaz. Pettis was clearly the bigger man.