tonight we had a 4 stripe brown visit our class, now maybe i'm just a sucker for a good roll,maybe i'm a pain addict but i just had to find out,i survived 4 min with him got some good sweeps on him and i side mounted him once,and i defend alot of submission attempts and i didn't get tapped " yeah i'm proud of this fact" yet i got smashed on which i don't mind as long as the guy is a blue or above (unless they're a 250+ monster) and i thanked the man for the opportunity to roll, i feel it was a privilege and it was a real confidence boost
Why don't you compete if you want to test yourself instead of spouting nonsense online about training sessions.
Aren't you the adult yellow belt that made pretty much the same thread last month?
Koga - Why don't you compete if you want to test yourself instead of spouting nonsense online about training sessions.
a.i don't have enough money to train AND compete right now
b.i use these forums as an online journal to make record of my journey through the BJJ experience
c. it isn't nonsense to me
meatrokket - Aren't you the adult yellow belt that made pretty much the same thread last month?
yes,but i believe that these things are worth talking about
and i hate to sound rude but if ya'll don't like me posting,get me banned
Why do you have to have an online journal. Why not a real journal? Keep it to yourself, wait a few then laugh at what you wrote.
He let you work your sweeps and the reason he didnt tap you is that he wanted you to work your defenses or he just plain felt sorry for you and thought you were to cute to hurt (cause he knows, you know, and I know you wouldnt tap and wouldve ened up in a Urgent Care Clinic for 4 hours waiting for xrays and pain killers while your cryin like a baby) He got PAID to help you train or is most likely GOOD friends with your instructor and was keeping it OVERLY friendly. AInt no white gonna hang wit a 4Stripe Brown let alone a 4Stripe Purple if he dont really want you to. Atleast not where I train.
Edjit fer mah spullin
sufferingsuckatash - He let you work your sweeps and the reason he didnt tap you is that he wanted you to work your defenses or he just plain felt sorry for you and thought you were to cute to hurt (cause he knows, you know, and I know you wouldnt tap and wouldve ened up in a Urgent Care Clinic for 4 hours waiting for xrays and pain killers while your cryin like a baby) He got PAID to help you train or is most likely GOOD friends with your instructor and was keeping it OVERLY friendly. AInt no white gonna hang wit a 4Stripe Brown let alone a 4Stripe Purple if he dont really want you to. Atleast not where I train.
Edjit fer mah spullin
lol@painkillers...thats funny
jcchaos09 - tonight we had a 4 stripe brown visit our class, now maybe i'm just a sucker for a good roll,maybe i'm a pain addict but i just had to find out,i survived 4 min with him got some good sweeps on him and i side mounted him once,and i defend alot of submission attempts and i didn't get tapped " yeah i'm proud of this fact" yet i got smashed on which i don't mind as long as the guy is a blue or above (unless they're a 250+ monster) and i thanked the man for the opportunity to roll, i feel it was a privilege and it was a real confidence boost
You are either a horrible troll, a BJJ savant, or an arrogant fool; or a combination thereof
Seriously guy, as a white belt, do you really think that you rolled with a Brown Belt and swept him, passed his guard, and fended off his subs while he was going full on?
If you do, you really need to have a sit down with your instructor so he can set you straight.
I always wonder - do people remember making these posts when they reach brown belt and if so what do they think of them?
jcchaos09 -
b.i use these forums as an online journal to make record of my journey through the BJJ experience
Get a blog.
Brian McLaughlin - I always wonder - do people remember making these posts when they reach brown belt and if so what do they think of them?
They don't get to brown! ;-)
Brian McLaughlin - I always wonder - do people remember making these posts when they reach brown belt and if so what do they think of them?
I'd like to think that people with jcchaos' attitude and ability to make such stupid posts never make it that far.
There are three ways to roll with a lower belt:
1) Let them into the game entirely. Allow them to pass, to get dominant positions, to escape, or to attack. Even let them finish submissions. You use this as a chance to help them practice the whole time.
2) Let them into the game partially. Sometimes you let them do things, but sometimes you take control and work what you're after. You let them practice some stuff and you take the chance to practice some stuff.
3) Don't let them into the game at all. YOU practice your own stuff the whole time, and you don't give them an inch. Spend it whoopin' on them.
Now, when I was a white belt, I had only encountered style #3, though I had trained at 3 different clubs. I got rolled up by blues belts who destroyed me and tapped me 6 times in 2 minutes, never with the same submissions.
Later down the line, I started teaching, and I mostly used #1 and #2. It was all about helping my students to practice. Now that some of my students are becoming senior blues and purples and they are developing strong competition games, there are days when they want a good hard roll from me, and I have to go #3. But it's not my typical style with my students.
I still do the first two with my beginners, but unfortunately, I've encountered a few who don't "get it". Even though they watch me whoop on the senior students, and then the senior students can lay them a beating, there are one or two who still go "Wow, I did really well against you." I usually just smile and give them the "Really? That's what we just did?" look, but it doesn't matter to me. I'll help them to get better, and the day will come when they're NOT just a goofy white belt, and they understand the idea of helping out your lower ranked partner while rolling, and they'll see a bigger picture. (And OK, ok: some days, if they've been talking all big and bad about how well they did with me, we'll slap hands and I'll rack up as many taps as I can in one minute. And then I'll look at them and say "Did you want me to keep rolling like this, or should I let you practice, like I usually do?" And then I sit down and help them pass my guard, and we go back to normal.)
Maybe some lower belts, like the OP, just really don't get it, no matter what we say. Maybe they're just THAT UNAWARE of what goes on outside themselves. They don't see that there's a bigger picture that the upper belts see, and instead they think that all rolling is competition and everyone is working everything they can at maximal effort, and that you should keep a record of every time you made that other guy in class tap, because if you're tapping him more than he's tapping you, then you're better, and that's something to be proud of, and it's so important to be better that you should tell other people in your class or in your life or on the internet, because they'd want to know.
OP may be trolling, or he may really lack self-awareness, both in the gym and on the interwebs. But as the upper belts, it is our job to guide him, if we can.
Great post Twinkletoes. Kinda says it all. But the OP makes me feel that I should just aim for door #3 all the time. Maybe it is an ego thing on my part.
You get both types of newbs.. I try to not smash white belts when we train but I think most of them realize Im not trying too hard.. It helps to tap them right off the bat then relax and let them work.. Thats how I was taught at that level and it helped me.. Now the blacks smash my shit and I love it and I know if I get somewhere when we roll.. I know that I earned a guard pass or a dominant posititon..
I remember a while back rolling easy with one of the guys at the gym. I do this all the time and think most people understand that I'm dialing it back. Well, this one guy doesn't get this and I find out that he's telling guys that he did really well with me the other day. (Note: If you are tough and do well against me that's perfectly fine.) The next time we rolled I arm triangled him four times in about a minute.
I know this posts sounds arrogant but I don't mean it to. I'm not that great. But no white belt -- unless you are Diego Sanchez or experienced in other forms of grappling -- is going to give a brown belt a hard time. It's bad form to talk about what happens in training, especially online. If I were the brown belt and found you bragging about how tough you are on the forum, I'd make sure we got a chance to roll again as soon as possible.
I couldn't have said it better myself Twinkletoes.
At purple, I think I've only smashed one guy this entire past year.
LAME thread.