Ron Paul: PoliceState Using DACA to Control Us All

Congress Quietly Pushing Bill to Require National Biometric ID for ‘ALL Americans’

H.R.4760 - Securing America's Future Act of 2018 - is a massive giveaway to the police state which will use a National ID to track Americans.
 

Earlier this month,  Rep. Bob Goodlatte [R-VA-6] introduced H.R.4760 – Securing America’s Future Act of 2018, a sweeping bill that entails everything from Education and the Workforce to Homeland Security to the military. Also, tucked away in this 400-page behemoth of a bill are the details of a new biometric National ID card that could soon be required for everyone.

Not surprisingly, there is almost no media coverage on this legislation.

H.R. 4760 establishes a mandatory National Identification system that requires all Americans to carry a government-approved ID containing “biometric features.” Without this card, according to the legislation, you will not be able to work in this country.

However, as Ron Paul points out, “this bill would give DACA recipients a 3-year renewable legal status while forcing a biometric National ID card on virtually everyone else.”

“That’s right — the statists want to control you,” said Paul.

Naturally, this bill is wholeheartedly supported by the anti-immigration sect and has gained 70 co-sponsors already in only a few days. As with most police state-promoting legislation, fear of illegal immigration is being pushed to garner such support. However, as Ron Paul points out, the bill won’t just target illegals—it targets everyone—and it will use your most private information to track you.

“Under the statists’ National ID scheme, you’d be forced to carry around your National ID card, tied to this massive database, chockfull of biometric identifiers like fingerprints and retina scans,” Paul noted. “Without this ID, you won’t be able to legally hold a job — or likely even open a bank account or even board a plane!”

Paul said there is a very good chance this bill will become law as the support for it seems overwhelming. He laid out three key factors that are detrimental to the freedom of all Americans.

- Allow federal bureaucrats to include biometric identification information on the card, potentially even including fingerprints, retinal scans, or scans of veins on the back of hands, which could easily be used as a tracking device;

-Be required for all U.S. workers regardless of place of birth, making it illegal for anyone to hold a job in the United States who doesn’t obtain an ID card

- Require all employers to purchase an “ID scanner” to verify the ID cards with the federal government. Every time any citizen applies for a job, the government would know — and you can bet its only a matter of time until “ID scans” will be required to make even routine purchases, as well.

The control freaks in the US government have been trying for years to pass a National ID card law and it has been successfully resisted every time. This time, however, it appears that the Republicans—who used to be vocally opposed to such measures—are now fully onboard likely because of the bill’s anti-immigration language.

As Paul points out,

"For years now, statists in BOTH parties have been fighting to RAM their radical National ID-database scheme into law.

In fact, this scheme was a key portion of the infamous failed “Comprehensive Immigration Reform” bills BOTH parties tried to ram through during the Obama administration.

Now, using the momentum behind Trump’s tough talk on immigration and border security, I’m afraid the statists believe the best way to finally enact their National ID scheme is by promoting their bill on Capitol Hill as a “DACA fix” while they sell it to the GOP base as a border “security” measure.

Of course, that’s nothing more than a buzzword meant to trick Americans from all over the country into thinking that Congress is going to seal our southern border.

But in reality, it means something far different.

The “security” members of BOTH parties in the U.S. House want doesn’t target any U.S. border. Instead, it’s meant to create an all-out police state within them.

The truth is, this is exactly the type of battle that often decides whether a country remains free or continues sliding toward tyranny."

Paul’s Campaign for Liberty is planning a massive crusade against this tyrannical legislation in the form of billboards, commercials, and other advertising. He’s even started a petition to let your representative know how you feel about them ushering in a new level of despotism and control. You can sign this petition here:

http://www.chooseliberty.org/no-national-id/?sr=c%MESSAGE_ID%








What say you OG? Are illegal immigrants a big enough concern for you to support trampling all over our freedoms and employing a national biometric database for us all???

Between this and Facebook capturing everyone’s face, were fucked!

I think we can all agree that trump being mean is the real story here and voting for traditional mainstream career politicians in the next election will surely fix this 

BigEyedFish -


I think we can all agree that trump being mean is the real story here and voting for traditional mainstream career politicians in the next election will surely fix this 

This story has very little to do with Trump, other than him being the spark of this bill by derailing DACA. I haven't seen him or the WH comment on this bill and would rather we discuss the actual bill and not devolve into Trump bullshit.

This is the deep state attempting to control and monitor us all. Anyone supporting this, imo, is not a true American and doesn't believe in the freedom from government control specifically outlined in the Constitution.

disbeliever -

Between this and Facebook capturing everyone’s face, were fucked!

Yup. It's been a steady process behind closed doors. Marketers in other nations have already developed facial recognition software that adjusts digital ad walls in malls based on who you are and what you like.

The government already has patents on similar technology.

I dont disagree but my point is that the dumbest voters on the planet, the american voters, will forget this or never see it, and think voting for the establishment politician on their team is the solution.  

But at the end of the day they are facilitating it.  

 

BigEyedFish -


I dont disagree but my point is that the dumbest voters on the planet, the american voters, will forget this or never see it, and think voting for the establishment politician on their team is the solution.  



But at the end of the day they are facilitating it.  



 

Many of them will blindly follow Trump if he comes out in favor of it as well.

Not surprisingly, MSM on both sides of the aisle are paying this no coverage at all that I can find. Google the bill# or name of the bill and the only MSM coverage is on the DACA parts. Barely even a mention of the national biometric tracking.

FETT_Lay'n'PrayNINJA -
BigEyedFish -


I think we can all agree that trump being mean is the real story here and voting for traditional mainstream career politicians in the next election will surely fix this 

This story has very little to do with Trump, other than him being the spark of this bill by derailing DACA. I haven't seen him or the WH comment on this bill and would rather we discuss the actual bill and not devolve into Trump bullshit.

This is the deep state attempting to control and monitor us all. Anyone supporting this, imo, is not a true American and doesn't believe in the freedom from government control specifically outlined in the Constitution.

I’m not saying I’m for a nat’l ID card, but please point out the ‘specific’ part of the Constitution that you think disallows this. 

Didn't that process start under Bush 43?

So you’re telling me a Trump “led” government is passing this and the media is staying silent...

 

 

 

bahahahahahahahaha

Fingerprints, retina scans.

No, this wont happen anytime soon.

pfsjkd -
FETT_Lay'n'PrayNINJA -
BigEyedFish -


I think we can all agree that trump being mean is the real story here and voting for traditional mainstream career politicians in the next election will surely fix this 

This story has very little to do with Trump, other than him being the spark of this bill by derailing DACA. I haven't seen him or the WH comment on this bill and would rather we discuss the actual bill and not devolve into Trump bullshit.

This is the deep state attempting to control and monitor us all. Anyone supporting this, imo, is not a true American and doesn't believe in the freedom from government control specifically outlined in the Constitution.

I’m not saying I’m for a nat’l ID card, but please point out the ‘specific’ part of the Constitution that you think disallows this. 

Are you serious?

pfsjkd -
FETT_Lay'n'PrayNINJA -
BigEyedFish -


I think we can all agree that trump being mean is the real story here and voting for traditional mainstream career politicians in the next election will surely fix this 

This story has very little to do with Trump, other than him being the spark of this bill by derailing DACA. I haven't seen him or the WH comment on this bill and would rather we discuss the actual bill and not devolve into Trump bullshit.

This is the deep state attempting to control and monitor us all. Anyone supporting this, imo, is not a true American and doesn't believe in the freedom from government control specifically outlined in the Constitution.

I’m not saying I’m for a nat’l ID card, but please point out the ‘specific’ part of the Constitution that you think disallows this. 

The 4th amendment covers electronic surveillance as upheld by US Supreme Court (US v. Katz 389 US 347).

No warrant, no surveillance.

MatrixKick -

So you’re telling me a Trump “led” government is passing this and the media is staying silent...

 

 

 

bahahahahahahahaha

I don't know if it's going to pass and I don't even know if Trump himself would support this.

If I were guessing off his recent signing of the amended 702 bullshit, I would guess he will.

FETT_Lay'n'PrayNINJA -
pfsjkd -
FETT_Lay'n'PrayNINJA -
BigEyedFish -

I think we can all agree that trump being mean is the real story here and voting for traditional mainstream career politicians in the next election will surely fix this 

This story has very little to do with Trump, other than him being the spark of this bill by derailing DACA. I haven't seen him or the WH comment on this bill and would rather we discuss the actual bill and not devolve into Trump bullshit.

This is the deep state attempting to control and monitor us all. Anyone supporting this, imo, is not a true American and doesn't believe in the freedom from government control specifically outlined in the Constitution.

I’m not saying I’m for a nat’l ID card, but please point out the ‘specific’ part of the Constitution that you think disallows this. 

The 4th amendment covers electronic surveillance as upheld by US Supreme Court (US v. Katz 389 US 347).

No warrant, no surveillance.

How is an ID card ‘surveillance’?

and the fourth amendment only covers you in an area where you have a reasonable expectation of privacy. If you’re in public they ruled that you do not have this expectation.

OpenedUp -
pfsjkd -
FETT_Lay'n'PrayNINJA -
BigEyedFish -


I think we can all agree that trump being mean is the real story here and voting for traditional mainstream career politicians in the next election will surely fix this 

This story has very little to do with Trump, other than him being the spark of this bill by derailing DACA. I haven't seen him or the WH comment on this bill and would rather we discuss the actual bill and not devolve into Trump bullshit.

This is the deep state attempting to control and monitor us all. Anyone supporting this, imo, is not a true American and doesn't believe in the freedom from government control specifically outlined in the Constitution.

I’m not saying I’m for a nat’l ID card, but please point out the ‘specific’ part of the Constitution that you think disallows this. 

Are you serious?

Educate me. 

FETT_Lay'n'PrayNINJA - 
BigEyedFish -


I dont disagree but my point is that the dumbest voters on the planet, the american voters, will forget this or never see it, and think voting for the establishment politician on their team is the solution.  



But at the end of the day they are facilitating it.  



 

Many of them will blindly follow Trump if he comes out in favor of it as well.

Not surprisingly, MSM on both sides of the aisle are paying this no coverage at all that I can find. Google the bill# or name of the bill and the only MSM coverage is on the DACA parts. Barely even a mention of the national biometric tracking.


just like there was no mentioning of the absolute routing  and destruction of ISIS when it happened.  



 



#agenda  #activistmedia



 



its sickening 

pfsjkd - 
FETT_Lay'n'PrayNINJA -
pfsjkd -
FETT_Lay'n'PrayNINJA -
BigEyedFish -

I think we can all agree that trump being mean is the real story here and voting for traditional mainstream career politicians in the next election will surely fix this 

This story has very little to do with Trump, other than him being the spark of this bill by derailing DACA. I haven't seen him or the WH comment on this bill and would rather we discuss the actual bill and not devolve into Trump bullshit.

This is the deep state attempting to control and monitor us all. Anyone supporting this, imo, is not a true American and doesn't believe in the freedom from government control specifically outlined in the Constitution.

I’m not saying I’m for a nat’l ID card, but please point out the ‘specific’ part of the Constitution that you think disallows this. 

The 4th amendment covers electronic surveillance as upheld by US Supreme Court (US v. Katz 389 US 347).

No warrant, no surveillance.

How is an ID card ‘surveillance’?

and the fourth amendment only covers you in an area where you have a reasonable expectation of privacy. If you’re in public they ruled that you do not have this expectation.



Agreed. A decision prohibiting warrantless wiretaps doesn't seem in any significant way relevant to a National ID card law, especially when you read the specific language of the ruling.

Something tells me that if I take the time to research this bill, it won't actually allow what the article says it does...

Sagiv Lapkin -
pfsjkd - 
FETT_Lay'n'PrayNINJA -
pfsjkd -
FETT_Lay'n'PrayNINJA -
BigEyedFish -

I think we can all agree that trump being mean is the real story here and voting for traditional mainstream career politicians in the next election will surely fix this 

This story has very little to do with Trump, other than him being the spark of this bill by derailing DACA. I haven't seen him or the WH comment on this bill and would rather we discuss the actual bill and not devolve into Trump bullshit.

This is the deep state attempting to control and monitor us all. Anyone supporting this, imo, is not a true American and doesn't believe in the freedom from government control specifically outlined in the Constitution.

I’m not saying I’m for a nat’l ID card, but please point out the ‘specific’ part of the Constitution that you think disallows this. 

The 4th amendment covers electronic surveillance as upheld by US Supreme Court (US v. Katz 389 US 347).

No warrant, no surveillance.

How is an ID card ‘surveillance’?

and the fourth amendment only covers you in an area where you have a reasonable expectation of privacy. If you’re in public they ruled that you do not have this expectation.



Agreed. A decision prohibiting warrantless wiretaps doesn't seem in any significant way relevant to a National ID card law, especially when you read the specific language of the ruling.

This national ID card would in theory include fingerprint, retinal scan and other surveillance technology, and would be required for job applications, and potentially be scanned any time an ID is required (buying booze, smokes, etc).

This would be giving the government the ability to see when you travel inside the USA, what you're doing/purchasing, etc.

There is a reason that a national ID law has been shot down for decades. It's just getting more and more technologically advanced, which is worse.

The ruling I cited was simply to show that electronic surveillance is covered by the scope of the 4th amendment. It wasn't to argue that these are the same situations.