Don't get caught slippin' leaving your arm dangling when you're in the Omoplata position. I'm trying to go for the flashiest, pro wrasslin' looking moves. Try this move out, let me know if it works for you. I've only gotten it live on white belts so far.
Coach Alder
Nice!
Honestly, I'd love to see someone use that in MMA and use that left arm to freely beat the crap out of his opponent's face! I mean, there'd really be no defending it, so the ref would have to stop it at some point I'm assuming.
That's be a pretty embarrassing way to lose--GnP from behind the back ON BOTTOM!
Alder, has anyone tried to flail hardcore to get out of it, or is escaping it pretty impossible?
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Looks hard to catch that loose arm, but I'll work on it, see if there's a way to bait them into giving it to me. Otherwise, I love it. I use the Plata as my main sweep, so anything off of it I love. THANKS!
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It's cool looking, but I don't think it's going to be easy to implement on a skilled opponent (not that anything is).
When a guy powers up like that if you don't immediately try to put him back down or transition he is going to turn into you, stack you, and pass to side.
With your weight that far back, all he needs to do is place his head underneath your ankles and turn into you while putting forward pressure to stack. From there he's going to turn the corner and pass, and in a NoGi situation you won't be able to hold pants. Not to mention it will very difficult to trap the lose arm.
TheClips - Nice!
Honestly, I'd love to see someone use that in MMA and use that left arm to freely beat the crap out of his opponent's face! I mean, there'd really be no defending it, so the ref would have to stop it at some point I'm assuming.
That's be a pretty embarrassing way to lose--GnP from behind the back ON BOTTOM!
Alder, has anyone tried to flail hardcore to get out of it, or is escaping it pretty impossible?
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Bro no offense, but that move is on the Marcelo Garcia DVD. Not hating at all, maybe its a coincedence.
its on the omaplata/guillotine DVD series, the only difference is that marcelo finishes it with a rear naked choke.
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Alder Hampel -TheClips - Nice!
Honestly, I'd love to see someone use that in MMA and use that left arm to freely beat the crap out of his opponent's face! I mean, there'd really be no defending it, so the ref would have to stop it at some point I'm assuming.
That's be a pretty embarrassing way to lose--GnP from behind the back ON BOTTOM!
Alder, has anyone tried to flail hardcore to get out of it, or is escaping it pretty impossible?
So far I have COMPLETELY dominated white belts with it, and those guys flail like crazy ;) What's nutty is people actually do get to this position a lot with the arm hooked. I've personally been there many times. I just never thought there was anything offensive from that. I'd always let go of the arm and try to go back to the omoplata. The control feels really tight. You have to keep the omoplata tight, or the arm can start to weasel out.
I'll give you guys the Coach Alder Challenge. Drill the position when you first get the arm hooked, see if you can finish it. Let's see if it's legit Good Luck =)
McLeod - Looks hard to catch that loose arm, but I'll work on it, see if there's a way to bait them into giving it to me. Otherwise, I love it. I use the Plata as my main sweep, so anything off of it I love. THANKS!
It'll work fine I think best case scen. However if opponent knows how to properly defend opamplata, you'll never see that free arm.
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I want to try this.
Used it today while rolling...I liked it. But I didn't go out surfing or go out for a smoothie.
sorry to be the downer. but no way that shit works on someone who has played the game before.
please go work your escapes boys, it will help you in the long run.
advanced basics, right BJ?
ChrisHerzog - Used it today while rolling...I liked it. But I didn't go out surfing or go out for a smoothie.
JillWagner - u know when you get caught in the omaplata why cant they just roll forward to escape it instead of sitting up??its like when u get caught in a kimura(key lock FROM the guard)if the guy doesnt hook my ankle i just roll forward.
from the video there the white belt can just tuck his head in and roll
Alder Hampel - I'm trying to go for the flashiest, pro wrasslin' looking moves. I've only gotten it live on white belts so far.Coach Alder
cool.looks like a variation of a crucifix neck crank
What if this move does work in competition? You'd be the talk of the town. Chances are you could mate with your choice of women and dudes would buy you drinks everywhere you went!
Katsmash - This was NOT a rex kwon do impersonation! I really talk and act like this.
Jill - If the guy rolls forward, then I sweep with the omoplata +2 points FTW! BTW there's a counter for everything, this whole "well what if he does this or does that" debate is lame. What if he gives me his arm, what if he goes into a coma, what if he's never trained JJ in his life? The Answer, Twist-o-Plata.
Morgs - Yes I heel hook white belts. I also chin to eye socket them, and step on their necks after I sub them. I have to prove my alpha male dominance!