Ryan Couture Glad He Avoided DFW & Natural Feud

 

Ryan Couture takes a punch from K.J. Noons during their Strikeforce lightweight bout. (USA Today)

This has been a roller coaster year for lightweight Ryan Couture. Last January, the son of former two-division UFC champion Randy Couture won his fourth straight fight in Strikeforce and was offered a shot in the UFC after the organization shut down Strikeforce.

The opportunity came with a catch, however. Ryan’s dad Randy was retired from competition but still worked for the UFC and Fox as personality and television commentator until he jumped ship last spring and signed with rival promotion Bellator.

The business move infuriated UFC president Dana White, who has had many spats with the elder Couture over the years, and he made clear to the media that Randy was now persona non grata with him and the UFC. That’s about the time that Ryan got a direct call from White.

The president told Ryan that he had a future in the UFC, but that the fighter’s father and coach, Randy, was never to be allowed in his corner during a bout. The moment was bittersweet for Ryan.

On the one hand it was certainly Couture’s career goal to fight in the UFC – the major leagues of mixed martial arts – but on the other hand, he would miss hearing the familiar voice of his father and coach in his corner on fight nights.

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**Not sure what was up with the link. Here it is again. For some reason clicking on the link doesn't work but copying and pasting it does - http://sports.yahoo.com/news/mma--even-after-being-cut-by-the-ufc--ryan-couture-doesn-t-regret-avoiding-feud-between-father-and-dana-white-173946843.html  Thanks!

Ryan sold his soul :( Phone Post 3.0

Just started over at Yahoo! Sports' Cagewriter blog today. This is my first piece for them. This whole Ryan/Randy/Dana situation has been one of the most interesting, if unfortunate, things I've covered so far this year.

Outlaw'd by Lytle - Ryan sold his soul :( Phone Post 3.0


I think that's harsh. I remember speaking with his dad around the time it all began to happen and he certainly sounded proud and encouraging of Ryan. I think the younger Couture was put in an unfair and unprofessional position, though.



What would you guys do if it was you in his place? Tough call.

All things considered, I think Ryan handled the situation as well as he could have. He talked it over with his dad, he never antagonized the UFC President or the company, and he showed heart in both his fights. His skills just arent as polished as they need to be yet. He is pretty new to the game though and has a lot of room to grow. Not to mention, he has superman genes. I think he will be alright and he is set up for the future.

Elias Cepeda -
Outlaw'd by Lytle - Ryan sold his soul :( Phone Post 3.0

I think that's harsh. I remember speaking with his dad around the time it all began to happen and he certainly sounded proud and encouraging of Ryan. I think the younger Couture was put in an unfair and unprofessional position, though.

What would you guys do if it was you in his place? Tough call.

I guess it all depends on how much he makes in the ufc versus what he'd make in say bellator. If its comparable at all I would fight in bellator. IMO ryan couture really isnt that good and will probably be stuck on the undercards of the ufc making 12 and 12 or something like that. I would rather make the same or more and have my father/coach in my corner. Phone Post

teamquestnorth -
Elias Cepeda -
Outlaw'd by Lytle - Ryan sold his soul :( Phone Post 3.0

I think that's harsh. I remember speaking with his dad around the time it all began to happen and he certainly sounded proud and encouraging of Ryan. I think the younger Couture was put in an unfair and unprofessional position, though.

What would you guys do if it was you in his place? Tough call.

I guess it all depends on how much he makes in the ufc versus what he'd make in say bellator. If its comparable at all I would fight in bellator. IMO ryan couture really isnt that good and will probably be stuck on the undercards of the ufc making 12 and 12 or something like that. I would rather make the same or more and have my father/coach in my corner. Phone Post

Great point. Phone Post 3.0

Interesting stuff so far, thanks guys!

Can't blame Ryan for what Randy does. Unless randy is going to pay his bills then UFC is where its at Phone Post

Dana totally jacked Ryan to spite his father.  I feel for the dude.

Elias, do you have a link to the story because when I click read more it parks me on a blank white page. Thanks.

 

Cindy

CindyO - 


Elias, do you have a link to the story because when I click read more it parks me on a blank white page. Thanks.



 



Cindy



Hey Cindy, not sure what happened with the link but here it is: http://sports.yahoo.com/news/mma--even-after-being-cut-by-the-ufc--ryan-couture-doesn-t-regret-avoiding-feud-between-father-and-dana-white-173946843.html  

Shitty and in my opinion, petty move by DFW. You don't see David Stern or Roger Goddell pulling this shit. He wants the UFC to be a big time sport, he needs to show more class. Phone Post

I think Ryan did the best he could give the situation he was put in. It was a pretty crappy situation though, and it ultimately hurt Ryan more than it did Randy. Randy was his coach and should have been allowed in the corner without question. It was a very unprofessional way to handle the situation. Say what you will about Randy, he is good about staying out of the limelight when he is cornering someone.

Petty and spiteful is exactly what I was gonna say. Though it doesn't make it any better, Ryan's move to the UFC was based on a questionable decision on that last Strikeforce card. Iirc, all the winners that night were supposed to get contracts, and the losers got released. He seemed to get in on a show of good faith. Phone Post 3.0

TTT.

Why would he have exemption from cut after 0-2 for any reason whatsoever? I don't recall him looking like he had a real ton of ability? I remember thinking he wasn't as good as Randy at all... Why would the UFC need lots of fighters with that style going 0-2?

dhughes - I work in the same field as my father and while initially it opens doors, after a while it really complicates your own promotion and career. It can be quite a disadvantage actually. People who haven't been in the position rarely realize it until you show them explicit examples or they spend enough time around you to see it happen. Your efforts can be trivialized; your promotions questioned or stunted all together.

This is truth. You have to work even harder than the average guy without family ties in order to prove yourself. Even then, there's always going to be that group of coworkers that never sees past the family link, no matter what you do.

Elias,

"On the one hand it was certainly Couture’s career goal to fight in the UFC – the major leagues of mixed martial arts – but on the other hand, he would miss hearing the familiar voice of his father and coach in his corner on fight nights."

Why would he miss his dads voice in his corner? DW can't stop Randy from cornering Ryan because those decisions are up to the commission not DW- I think we bickered on another thread months ago about the same thing when you asked Kizer if DW had tried to have Randy banned as a corner in Nevada- even though Ryan never had a fight scheduled in Nevada:/  But this issue was put to bed a mere 2 weeks after it began.

-- DW threatened to ban Randy from Ryan's corner in his Sweden match Feb 3rd (a million links to read about it on).

-- A week later (Feb 10) Randy went to the media declaring he was down for the fight with DW and if Ryan wanted him there:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1523740-randy-couture-willing-to-address-issue-of-cornering-son-ryan-on-ufc-on-fuel-card

Randy Couture Willing to Address Issue of Cornering Son Ryan on UFC on Fuel Card

ByTrent Reinsmith

(Chief Writer) on February 10, 2013

Randy addressed the issue with Knockout Radio (h/t to MMAWeekly), saying, “I’ve helped him (Ryan) formulate some of those game plans in some of those camps and cornered him for his last three fights, so if that’s what Ryan needs and that’s what Ryan wants, then I am certainly willing to walk across that and address that issue, if Dana tries to preclude me from being a part of Ryan’s career.”

If Ryan does request Randy as a cornerman and that request is denied for whatever reason, don’t expect Randy to slink off with his tail between his legs—especially since he has been an approved cornerman for Ryan in the past.

-- A week later (Feb 18) this was a dead issue, according to George Sallfeldt, president of the Swedish MMA Federation:

http://www.fightline.com/fl-news-2013-0218-553444-randy-couture/

Randy Couture Permitted To Corner His Son’s UFC Debut

Apparently when Ryan Couture makes his UFC debut, there won’t be an issue if his father is one of the cornerman. George Sallfeldt, president of the Swedish MMA Federation, said that the UFC has cleared all cornerman for the April show.

“We don’t have any rules about who can corner an athlete,” said Sallfeldt on Nordic MMA. “That’s up to the athlete. We talked to the UFC and they have no problems with anyone corning anyone. I don’t see any problems in this specific case.”

Sallfeldt said that the number of cormerman is limited and can be changed on the day of the show.

There was some uncertainty after Randy Couture, Ryan’s father, left the UFC and signed a deal with Spike TV. By doing so, he became a coach on the new Bellator reality show.

Ryan makes his UFC debut against Ross Pearson from the Ericsson Globe Arena. That happens at UFC on FUEL TV 9 on April 6 out of Sweden.

Video interview with Commissioner can be found at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQwIRYBp09g

Couple if threads on this board about it, too. Surprised to see you leave out something pretty important in your article today unless you simply didn't know.

So Sweden chimed in mid February making it clear Randy isn't banned from cornering his son and they also made it clear the commission oversees such things and the fighter decides his corners.

The fight wasn't until April 6th so I'm sure you'll agree that the real question here is why Randy no-showed his kids fight, no?

 

Cindy

Elias Cepeda - 
CindyO - 


Elias, do you have a link to the story because when I click read more it parks me on a blank white page. Thanks.



 



Cindy



Hey Cindy, not sure what happened with the link but here it is: http://sports.yahoo.com/news/mma--even-after-being-cut-by-the-ufc--ryan-couture-doesn-t-regret-avoiding-feud-between-father-and-dana-white-173946843.html  



BTW, this link took me to another blank white screen so I had to Google it.



To all of the posters above me commenting on the article, is it showing up for you or did you have to find it another way (or did you comment w/o reading it)? Thanks.



 



Cindy