for all you guys saying all white belts know the escape, Ryron and Rener think differently:
I was actually caught in one today because I was fukkin around trying out stuffs. Dude made me pay.
Great breakdown. Called early? Yes. Was it going to make a difference? No.
Well there it is. Thanks OP. I now 100% am satisfied that Askren won that fight. I may copy this link and put it into other conversations.
Early but inevitable .. I bet money on Lawler by ko .. but Ben won that Robbie's arm went limp ..
Well that definitely ends the debate
I understand bulldog chokes so much better now. Simple to see now how it's, like they said, not something you put on somebody but something they fall into when trying to escape.
Soup and Beer -Well that definitely ends the debate
It really does. Everybody arguing about it should just refer to this.
Also vindicates Herb Dean.
So Askrens arms weren't going to burn out?
yomamafool -So Askrens arms weren't going to burn out?
lol @ even asking this question about some of Ben Askren’s grappling credentials. Did you see the pressure on that squeeze?
Gartlin -Soup and Beer -Well that definitely ends the debate
It really does. Everybody arguing about it should just refer to this.
Also vindicates Herb Dean.
I'm guessing Robbie knows he wasn't getting out and is quite thankful for the early stoppage. He can play this angle and get a quick rematch.
Soup and Beer -Gartlin -Soup and Beer -Well that definitely ends the debate
It really does. Everybody arguing about it should just refer to this.
Also vindicates Herb Dean.
I'm guessing Robbie knows he wasn't getting out and is quite thankful for the early stoppage. He can play this angle and get a quick rematch.
You know I was thinking at the end of the press conference that when someone asked "so you weren't about to go out" or something like that, the way Robbie answered made me doubt him.
I really like Robbie by the way and was not looking to doubt him. I just got that vague sensation you get when you feel like someone isn't quite being truthful.
Its definitely plausible that he could have gassed his arms by squeezing like crazy and not getting the finish.
Just because rener and ryron made a vid, it does not make it the end all be all. Unfortunately, all kinds of fans, just like they already are in this post, are gonna take this narrative and run with it.
Juggernautt -Its definitely plausible that he could have gassed his arms by squeezing like crazy and not getting the finish.
Just because rener and ryron made a vid, it does not make it the end all be all. Unfortunately, all kinds of fans, just like they already are in this post, are gonna take this narrative and run with it.
They made a vid that you obviously didn't watch, because they addressed that very thing.
Juggernautt -Its definitely plausible that he could have gassed his arms by squeezing like crazy and not getting the finish.
Just because rener and ryron made a vid, it does not make it the end all be all. Unfortunately, all kinds of fans, just like they already are in this post, are gonna take this narrative and run with it.
Yea, what the fuck do rener and ryron know about chokes anyway? Just another couple of Askren fanboys who are making shit up!
They're right. Was it an early stoppage? Yes. Did it effect the outcome? No.
yomamafool -So Askrens arms weren't going to burn out?
A guy like Askren, early in a fight? Robbie will go to sleep, before Ben's arms burn out. Not just that, this isn't like a guillotine or an RNC, his arms are doing very little of the work. See how he's arching his back? He basically has his entire body to torque that choke. Ben was in a position of incredible leverage.
ABCTT_HeHitsMeBecauseHeLovesMe -yomamafool -So Askrens arms weren't going to burn out?
A guy like Askren, early in a fight? Robbie will go to sleep, before Ben's arm burn out. Not just that, this isn't like a guillotine or an RNC, his arms are doing very little of the work. See how he's arching his back? He basically has his entire body to torque that choke. Ben was in a position of incredible leverage.
Ben could have tookin his head clean off
ShoreBreaker -ABCTT_HeHitsMeBecauseHeLovesMe -yomamafool -So Askrens arms weren't going to burn out?
A guy like Askren, early in a fight? Robbie will go to sleep, before Ben's arm burn out. Not just that, this isn't like a guillotine or an RNC, his arms are doing very little of the work. See how he's arching his back? He basically has his entire body to torque that choke. Ben was in a position of incredible leverage.
Ben could have tookin his head clean off
Be could badly fuck Robbie's neck up, from that position.