It has been flagged for some time now that the judging criteria for MMA doesn't work and the people who are judging the fights are not up to scratch.
So what is being done? Surely the commission recognises this and are taking steps to correct the situation.
When shoud we see results? what actions are being put in place?
It's not just the UFC, bellator has had some bad decisions lately 
The UFC has zip to do with judging. That is handled by the regulating AC. ABC convention this Summer has a lot on the agenda about judging.
Kirik - The UFC has zip to do with judging. That is handled by the regulating AC. ABC convention this Summer has a lot on the agenda about judging.
Hi Kirik, great site.
I know it not just UFC but they have the ability to apply pressure. A company (UFC) that can go global and take on boxing can surely rub shoulders with the right people to sort out judging.
Do you know who is advising the AC on the judging?
Kirik - The UFC has zip to do with judging. That is handled by the regulating AC. ABC convention this Summer has a lot on the agenda about judging.
That's not entirely true though. Marc Ratner specifically works with each of the individual commissions. The UFC also has the choice of where to host their shows based on the hosting commission.
That, of course, doesn't mean that the UFC manipulates the ACs or judges, but I wouldn't say the UFC "has zip to do with judging".
http://www.fightersonlymagazine.co.uk/news/viewarticle.php?id=5587
FO: You’ve been an active member of the sport in various roles since its inception, working your way up to the Executive Director of the NSAC and eventually taking a position with the UFC in regulatory affairs. Can you explain what your position entails and outline the various things you’re absorbed in on a day to day basis?
MR: On a daily basis, I’m involved in touching base with the different Commissions for upcoming fights. Today I’ve talked with the Michigan Commission, Quebec Commission and working on our show in Germany. I’m also researching venues to bring our shows to for next year.
FO: Though the athletic commissions are a separate entity, the performance of judges inevitably has a pointed impact on the fighters, fans, and the product that Zuffa is producing. Many feel the chaotic decisions are dulling the luster on what should be entertaining events. Can you explain how you and the UFC interact with the athletic commissions, and what the UFC is actively doing to improve the accuracy of decisions?
MR: As I previously mentioned, I interact on a daily basis with Commissions and I look at videos of all UFC fights that are controversial. As long as we have humans subjectively judging there will always be decisions that are found to be controversial. That goes for all sports: gymnastics, diving, and any other sport that has judging.
FO: What are some of the challenges and roadblocks you’ve encountered when interacting with athletic commissions, if any?
MR: The Commissions are always open to talking about the Judging and I have not run into any significant road blocks.
FO: How has your past experience as an athletic commissioner helped you excel in your current position?
MR: With my past experience, I know the Commissions and can call almost all of them and speak with the Executive Officers and talk about regulatory matters.
probably cause alot of stuff is subjective
do you give points ot the guy who attempts a sub or the guy that defends the sub and transtions
do you give a guy points for a takedown or the guy who gets taken down but is able to get back up without taking much damage
im not saying there havent been some "wtf was that" decisions but alot of the ug "this guy got robbed" threads have been in really close matches or matches that not much happens and things like this have been the deciding factor and obviously the fan boys of the guy who "got robbed" are going to be asking for heads to roll
zuffa pretty much owns the athletic commissions
fertittas used to sit on the board and still have their people there, csac chief retired and got a job at stations casinos
fertitta mafia runs that shit
they could change the rules and the judges any time the want, they just like to pretend that it's out of there hands
the only reason judges are not allowed to use 10-8 and 10-10 more often is because dana and zuffa hate draws
There must be a secret rule implemented that tells the AC judges to favor the non-asian against the asian unless it is Yushin Okami.
Part of the issue is that a lot of fans watch a fight with their heart and not with their head.
A few things you can do to fix this,
1) Read the rules.
2) Understand that takedowns are always worth more than a sprawl. Landing a punch is worth more than blocking a punch. Pushing a guy up against the fence - the guy doing the pushing is winning that exchange.
3) When watching a fight, break each 5 minute round into distinct 1 minute blocks in your mind. Note on a piece of paper who won each minute.
Massa - Part of the issue is that a lot of fans watch a fight with their heart and not with their head.
A few things you can do to fix this,
1) Read the rules.
2) Understand that takedowns are always worth more than a sprawl. Landing a punch is worth more than blocking a punch. Pushing a guy up against the fence - the guy doing the pushing is winning that exchange.
3) When watching a fight, break each 5 minute round into distinct 1 minute blocks in your mind. Note on a piece of paper who won each minute.
SO are you saying there is nothing wrong with the current judging?
Are you an idiot?
Massa - Part of the issue is that a lot of fans watch a fight with their heart and not with their head.
A few things you can do to fix this,
1) Read the rules.
2) Understand that takedowns are always worth more than a sprawl. Landing a punch is worth more than blocking a punch. Pushing a guy up against the fence - the guy doing the pushing is winning that exchange.
3) When watching a fight, break each 5 minute round into distinct 1 minute blocks in your mind. Note on a piece of paper who won each minute.
I'm disagreeing with this altogether.
why would the ufc intentionality allow bad judges if they could control it?
seems idiotic.
zFugitive - why would the ufc intentionality allow bad judges if they could control it?
seems idiotic.
because dana is trying to condition fighters to not leave it in the hands of the judges
that's why they have ko and submission bonuses. they hate it when fighter is trying to win a decision instead of trying to finish the fight
^^^^ with all due respect pervert that is a moronic statement of epic proportions or you are trolling in which case I have to say 8/10 :)
Cue Kizer and his usual 'the judging is fine' bullshit he consistently spews out, despite the fact that it's actually as bad as ever.
Athletic commissions should be responsible for everything UP TO judging - and that should be handled by the promotion itself. With right-minded, competent people (retired fighters) as the judges. Commissions don't know enough about MMA to properly handle one of the mosy important aspects of it. Either that or they just don't care about it as much as they do other sports because as we all know MMA is still relatively infant when compared to others.
Commissions, I know that the life we live is surrounded by chaos and tragic events and all sorts of other seemingly unfixable things - but MMA judging is not one of them. Fix this issue, and if you can't, turn your responsibility over to someone who can.