UK Asylum - I dont see how its disrespectful to ask someone more experience to roll/spar.<br /><br />All it means is you wanna test yourself.. I spar with experienced thai boxers all the time and theres never any hard feelings.
Also, I call them by their first name
I made the mistake in asking my instructor to roll when people were picking each other, I was fine for a while but once the choke came and I tapped and he didn't seem to care. He let go when I was maybe a second away from being completely unconscious. After the roll I was kinda like what the hell and he said don't ever call out black belts.
Was completely unaware of that rule and don't entirely understand it still. I tend to learn things the hard way.
No offense intended but your instructor sounds like an insecure tool.
UK Asylum - I dont see how its disrespectful to ask someone more experience to roll/spar.<br /><br />All it means is you wanna test yourself.. I spar with experienced thai boxers all the time and theres never any hard feelings.
Also, I call them by their first name
I made the mistake in asking my instructor to roll when people were picking each other, I was fine for a while but once the choke came and I tapped and he didn't seem to care. He let go when I was maybe a second away from being completely unconscious. After the roll I was kinda like what the hell and he said don't ever call out black belts.
Was completely unaware of that rule and don't entirely understand it still. I tend to learn things the hard way.
No offense intended but your instructor sounds like an insecure tool.
Yeah I'm still not entirely sure how I feel about it still, he can be cool to me but some days are weird.
I'm not butthurt about it or anything, just a little more cautious when picking partners
UK Asylum - I dont see how its disrespectful to ask someone more experience to roll/spar.<br /><br />All it means is you wanna test yourself.. I spar with experienced thai boxers all the time and theres never any hard feelings.
Also, I call them by their first name
I made the mistake in asking my instructor to roll when people were picking each other, I was fine for a while but once the choke came and I tapped and he didn't seem to care. He let go when I was maybe a second away from being completely unconscious. After the roll I was kinda like what the hell and he said don't ever call out black belts.
Was completely unaware of that rule and don't entirely understand it still. I tend to learn things the hard way.
No offense intended but your instructor sounds like an insecure tool.
Yeah I'm still not entirely sure how I feel about it still, he can be cool to me but some days are weird.
I'm not butthurt about it or anything, just a little more cautious when picking partners
I don't think there's such a rule, being able to roll with high ranked belts is a great opportunity to get humbled or to know where you're at.
That guy was just being an asshole, hopefully I never run into someone like this.
FOX Force Five - I call my coach John, it's his name!
So does everyone else who trains at our club.
This. I don't think it's disrespectful for anyone to call me (I'm a black belt) by my first name, nor do I expect it. It's not the military or a hierarchal organization that should expect someone to refer to superiors/elders in such a manner (Schools, Church etc...) When we go in to see our accountant, we don't offer him reverence for being a CPA (though if anyone deserves it, it's that man!) and in all honesty, it kind of weirds me out when people call me sir.
On an unrelated note how awesome is the screen name FOX Force Five? Shouldn't you be finishing every post with a bad joke?
This is correct.
Show respect to people because they're good people, not because what color their belt is. There's already far too much cult-ism and idol worship going on in martial arts and MMA schools.
UK Asylum - I dont see how its disrespectful to ask someone more experience to roll/spar.<br /><br />All it means is you wanna test yourself.. I spar with experienced thai boxers all the time and theres never any hard feelings.
Also, I call them by their first name
I made the mistake in asking my instructor to roll when people were picking each other, I was fine for a while but once the choke came and I tapped and he didn't seem to care. He let go when I was maybe a second away from being completely unconscious. After the roll I was kinda like what the hell and he said don't ever call out black belts.
Was completely unaware of that rule and don't entirely understand it still. I tend to learn things the hard way.
No offense intended but your instructor sounds like an insecure tool.
Yeah I'm still not entirely sure how I feel about it still, he can be cool to me but some days are weird.
I'm not butthurt about it or anything, just a little more cautious when picking partners
I don't think there's such a rule, being able to roll with high ranked belts is a great opportunity to get humbled or to know where you're at.
That guy was just being an asshole, hopefully I never run into someone like this.
I disagree with part of your sentiment. A white belt will usually learn LESS from rolling with a black belt than with anyone else. Reason being, you can't do anything. Part of what makes a black belt is knowing how to shut down options. Against a white belt, that would be shutting down the abilitiy to move, and you can't try anything if you can't move. Fortunately for me, the times it was me in that situation, they gave me opportunities so I could learn, then waited for me to make a mistake. All I really learned was that I didn't know anything, but I could learn that just as well against purples or browns.
UK Asylum - I dont see how its disrespectful to ask someone more experience to roll/spar.<br /><br />All it means is you wanna test yourself.. I spar with experienced thai boxers all the time and theres never any hard feelings.
Also, I call them by their first name
I made the mistake in asking my instructor to roll when people were picking each other, I was fine for a while but once the choke came and I tapped and he didn't seem to care. He let go when I was maybe a second away from being completely unconscious. After the roll I was kinda like what the hell and he said don't ever call out black belts.
Was completely unaware of that rule and don't entirely understand it still. I tend to learn things the hard way.
No offense intended but your instructor sounds like an insecure tool.
Yeah I'm still not entirely sure how I feel about it still, he can be cool to me but some days are weird.
I'm not butthurt about it or anything, just a little more cautious when picking partners
I don't think there's such a rule, being able to roll with high ranked belts is a great opportunity to get humbled or to know where you're at.
That guy was just being an asshole, hopefully I never run into someone like this.
I disagree with part of your sentiment. A white belt will usually learn LESS from rolling with a black belt than with anyone else. Reason being, you can't do anything. Part of what makes a black belt is knowing how to shut down options. Against a white belt, that would be shutting down the abilitiy to move, and you can't try anything if you can't move. Fortunately for me, the times it was me in that situation, they gave me opportunities so I could learn, then waited for me to make a mistake. All I really learned was that I didn't know anything, but I could learn that just as well against purples or browns.
He gave me openings and whatnot, he didnt just destroy me, I think I even got to mount this particular time but I have no delusions and know that had his goal been to win I never would have passed his guard. It didn't take long before he was wrapped around my back which is where my memory starts getting fuzzy.
I enjoy rolling with other BBs, I feel I take something away from it most of the time.
FOX Force Five - I call my coach John, it's his name!
So does everyone else who trains at our club.
This. I don't think it's disrespectful for anyone to call me (I'm a black belt) by my first name, nor do I expect it. It's not the military or a hierarchal organization that should expect someone to refer to superiors/elders in such a manner (Schools, Church etc...) When we go in to see our accountant, we don't offer him reverence for being a CPA (though if anyone deserves it, it's that man!) and in all honesty, it kind of weirds me out when people call me sir.
On an unrelated note how awesome is the screen name FOX Force Five? Shouldn't you be finishing every post with a bad joke?
Thanks, as well as the movie reference, my join date is the first UFC on Fox night.
Back to the point. John is 5TH Dan (Judo), he has coached olympians and European champions. I have the upmost respect for him and I believe that is shown in the way we all interact with him on the mat. He certainly doesn't see the need for a title.
Can someone explain the whole "don't ask a senior rank to roll" thing? I'm in U.K. Judo, and do it all the time - no-one is offended.
I have a tendency to be more formal in a gym/dojo setting, or any type of class that I take seriously. It's just something about the way I learn. I guess in the end I'm usually pretty formal with anyone I have a lot of respect for no matter what the setting.