So... Did Shields beat Maia at his own game?

michaelkaras - so if shields stops maia from being able to sub/sweep him, that isn't outgrappling now? its a new word, neutralization?

if another grappler makes a world class grappler's game useless, it's not because he was better at it? Stopping someone from imposing their game doesnt count? Would it be better if Shields let Maia try 50 different sub attempts and defend them instead?

i dont understand all the shields hate. his grappling was obviously superior to maia's

That's what I'm talking about. This is my question? Wasn't Shields controlling the scrambling, thus controlling a great part of Maia's game?

I'm a fan of Maia by the way. Phone Post

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there was no breaking maia. When Maia got top position he took risks to advance to a position to finish a fight. Shields was a solid enough grappler to gain an advantage from the ensuing scrambles, but did absolutely nothing but lay on top of maia, thereafter. That shows great skill in of itself, but it is not beating Maia at his own game. If Maia wanted to play a safe top control game, he could have had the same results in those rounds, imo.



100 percent false.

It may have been the case latter in the fight though. Jake was able to move from guard to half guard a couple of times but could not hold the position ever. He was almost jumping trying go get out of full guard several times.

Maia is no joke down there and he could not get that done. He was however able to get top position with some sick moves and scrambles a few times and that won him the fight. Pound for pound he's as good as anyone in the game down there. Again this was a battle for a controlling position 1st and foremost, Jake won that battle as I thought he would. Lots of butt hurt in the forum right now (not saying you).
There was no "breaking."

JDS vs. Cain 2 = Breaking Phone Post 3.0


LOL yes true. I stand corrected. 90 percent false. I addressed what was false.

Not saying it with any sourness, and I found the fight technically entertaining. But hard to say either guy beat the others. I thought it was fair enough going to Shields under the way were used to seeing scoring, but either way it was going to purely based how some judges prioritized what they scored.

That being said, if neutralized is the word, I'm impressed Shields could do that against Maia because predicted it would be fairly one sided the other way. Phone Post 3.0

I enjoyed the fight. Both guys showed some pretty awesome transitions. Phone Post 3.0