Sober the Turkey is freezing

Day one. No nada!

No pills, alcohol, suppositories(redundant but maybe funny) annnd the kicker



NO CANNABIS.



I'm aiming for just 60 days, so who can't do that right?



Havent been sober for more than a few days since sophomore year in high school.

I'm now 25.


It was just smoking heefer from morning to night. I've played around with pills since I was 17, never a problem so those are gone for good.


I miss how my mind operates with no external intoxicants introduced to it.


Been having a pretty good spar with depression. For quite awhile, honestly but then got a major reality check upon waking up from a phone call from my brother letting me know my mother died.

That was November third of last year. She was turning 52 in two days.


Enough about that until further prodded. I'm absolutely exhausted from fighting back all of these sincere emotions and just hiding from them with weed, mostly.


I have made a thread titled 'Combatting Depression ' which led to a lot of great help and thanks for that

Advice/support is greatly appreciated, but either way go fuck yourselves! Because this is for me.


Fuck the OG Phone Post 3.0

Good luck bro dedicating this next bowl to your struggles

Congrats on a healthy choice. Add some workouts or running to help you through it.

Thanks pud. Bong or pipe bowl? Better be going hard. Believe me when I say it's deeply felt


Great thinking, striking. My cardio is not far from reach but I have never really lifted in my quarter century experience on this rock.


Maybe it's time to beefcake up!!


They say if you look good, you feel good.


Are they correct? Phone Post 3.0

Yes and the running and lifting will fire off your endorphins and help you feel leveled out. Sort of a natural fix to help you when things get rougher.

StrikingMMA - Yes and the running and lifting will fire off your endorphins and help you feel leveled out. Sort of a natural fix to help you when things get rougher.
Vtfu. I'll return to this thread with updates maybe?



Maybe. Phone Post 3.0

Good for your man, I will vape a bowl in your honor.

I'm sure you're fine and intelligent and all that. However as big of a fan about MJ as I am.  Smoking while your brain is still developing like before 25 or so(i think Im no dr) it fucks with the brain. SO best of luck!

You're title would imply you're drunk currently


Good for you OP, stay strong. Phone Post 3.0

borked -


Good for your man, I will vape a bowl in your honor.



I'm sure you're fine and intelligent and all that. However as big of a fan about MJ as I am.  Smoking while your brain is still developing like before 25 or so(i think Im no dr) it fucks with the brain. SO best of luck!

Should have mentioned I first started at 13. My every day smoking began at 15. That might explain a smidgen of my lack of emotional control.


That or I'm just fucking high all the time.


And i have heard things like that. If your suggesting that since I came up all along with weed that I'll need it forever then I'd have to say I sure hope not lol. Stay tuned for results maybe? Phone Post 3.0

Someonestolemysocks - You're title would imply you're drunk currently


Good for you OP, stay strong. Phone Post 3.0
Haha, sounds terrible. For some reason I have caught on that booze epsom salt bath makes for the shits with the quickness.


Wait, cut it out. No booze either.


What the fuck do sober people do all of the time? Phone Post 3.0

Would anyone here recommend a sleeping aid of some sort to help me crash out at the end of the day?


I don't wanna wake up slow. Work at 8! Phone Post 3.0

Haven't gone to bed not high in awhile, it's odd



I'm aware of the double negative Phone Post 3.0

Fucking yesss, let's do this. Phone Post 3.0

I was reading this thread on the UG (got lost in hot threads) and saw a gif of this older gent rrrripping a decent sized bong.


Fuck that guy Phone Post 3.0

southcraw - 
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Good for your man, I will vape a bowl in your honor.

I'm sure you're fine and intelligent and all that. However as big of a fan about MJ as I am.  Smoking while your brain is still developing like before 25 or so(i think Im no dr) it fucks with the brain. SO best of luck!

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That or I'm just fucking high all the time.<br />
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And i have heard things like that. If your suggesting that since I came up all along with weed that I'll need it forever then I'd have to say I sure hope not lol. Stay tuned for results maybe? <img alt="Phone Post 3.0" border="0" src="/images/phone/apple.png" style="vertical-align:middle;" /></span></blockquote>


I am just trying to say. All my friends or people I know l that started smoking when they were in their teens vs my friends who started in their mid 20s Lol. I mean those guys who started at 13 or whatever it is hard to follow basic instructions or situational awareness(imo permastoned). Basically everything is harder. I'm just a guy sharing my experiences with you. Yanno bottom line. If stuff seems to be harder or more difficult for you. Especially with things regarding mentality and emotionally. Just be aware of what you have done(re: drug use).

You are not a retard you are just going to have to work harder than most to succeed. Nothing worse than behaving a certain way and looking back and not knowing why(or blaming it and giving up). Don't make excuses for yourself. Understand you probably dropped a lot of iq points because of your past usage. However you are obviously not disabled. So... Go get yours.

 

TLDR: Your past/story is not who you are or will determine your futre. Just keep moving forward in the right direction.

Substance abuse must carry with it some type of long term ramifications but I don't feel any less intelligent. In fact just 24 hours without the holy herb and I already felt less clouded.


Thanks for your words, bork! I'm gonna kick this weeks ass Phone Post 3.0

I had intense cold sweats again last night. Didn't expect that, not sure why.


My bed sheets now smell like a Nu-Way hamburger. Oddly appealing Phone Post 3.0

southcraw - I had intense cold sweats again last night. Didn't expect that, not sure why.


My bed sheets now smell like a Nu-Way hamburger. Oddly appealing Phone Post 3.0

 

Yep, best of luck! You WILL feel better emotionally, physically and mentally if you continue down this path. If you don't improve...go get some lab work done and see if there is something going on like a simple vitamin defeciency can really fuck with you. Most importantly it seems like(i don't know you really) you have the "addict" gene. So, once you feel like you beat all this shit be careful of old habits.

 

Re: night sweats ...with substance abuse a lot of people are "self medicating." There may be some medical or mental issue/abnormaility you have. However the recreational drug use has been masking it and what not. It's mostly why people become alcoholics etc... They start out self medicating ie: glass of whiskey every night when you get home to relieve stress vs going to the doc for a script of xanax. Neither is healthy, but everyone's situation is unique. Last word on those night sweats; sounds like alcohol or opioid/benzo withdrawal kicking in. Keep fighting!

Hardest part for me for giving up the green(i've gone cold turkey for months or years then come back etc..) was irritability and insomnia. If that's you... just be mindful of your irritability around others(be aware you are detoxing, no need to share outloud tho). As for sleeping, that's real fucking simple. Don't need to use any drugs(like advil PM or some sleep aid), just go do some non fun task like cleaning your house or working out until you're like "fuck this im tired, im going to bed." continue that until you regain your normal sleeping pattern.

If you say you're going to do something;, do it. If your alarm goes off at 7am DO NOT HIT SNOOZE. My poiint is don't back into the habit of rationalizing your behavior or "lying to yourself." and it starts with the small things that you can control. like getting right the fuck up and out of bed when your alarm goes off.

 

NOTHING GOOD COMES FROM SLEEPING IN, you won't feel any more rested, you will be stressed because you are behind, and worst of all you will have allowed yourself to lie to yourself. It's pretty crazy how the little things add up and become huge problems later on, like simply saying "tomorrow im setting my alarm to run at 7am" alarm goes off, you turn it off and go back to sleep. congrats you just lied to yourself, which opens the door for other rationals for unhealthy behavior.

Sorry for the rant about alarm clocks but, it's a point I try to make all the time to these self entitled/instant gratifcation little shits that work for me.

TLDR; I often give myself advice through giving others advice. lol but fuck it, it works for my brain.

 

re: Depression I had a rough year last year too. Dad died, house burnt to the ground lost everything etc.. Eventually, it's concrete thinking(google it) and realizing you aren't fucking special. You are not some desert flower trying to struggle to survive in the harsh life thrust upon you. You are the same as everyone else, we all struggle through this bitch but we all do it in our own way. So don't take offense if no one is there to pick you up, pick yourself up and expect THAT. Life can be rough But it beats being DEAD.

You're building me up, bro! I'm always going to work or on my two days off I drive 2 hours back to my hometown. Cannot remember the last time I slept in.

I certainly wouldn't call myself a productive user but I make it to work everyday, on time.


Substance abuse runs deep through both sides of my family. I have direct contact with many cases of 'oh shit I don't wanna be like that'.


Sorry to hear about your father. House fire sucks, too.

My cousin was telling me withdrawal on day 3 is the worst than it should progressively get better. I just hope to get a thorough nights sleep.

I really appreciate your words. This thread is helping me vent a little Phone Post 3.0

Thanks for the condolences.

Not sure what drug your cousin is referring to specifically? Anyways just focus on yourself and moving forward. No one is going to have all the answers you want or need. Remember you arent a rose in the desert, don't expect someone to come by with water for you as we all struggle ourselves. So just keep up the good work, one day at a time; simple as that.

Don't rely on this thread..rely on yourself. Also I don't know if this will help you but learn and know what 'gratitude' means/is. It's easy to blame and think pessimistically about our past or future. However just having gratitude or being thankful for what you have(even if it's shit, trust me you arent third world country fucked). This was very powerful in kicking out those bad thoughts/intentions for me anyways/

Also PM me whenever you want to vent or shoot the shit. I got your back as much as I can. If it ever becomes too much, don't be a pussy. Seek professional advice, a lot of the reasons why people use is deep subsurface issues that a good pro can help you resolve. Seriously, no one on a thread is going to be able to do that for you.

Anyways sounds like you're the type to pull yourself up by your boot straps. Which is good and which reminds me to tell you again google 'concrete thinking'. It is simple, and it works. Plus you're young, biggest advantage period. Literally your whole life is just beginning. Previous life was not  so much in your control or even your own, now you are an adult and it's all for your taking now.