Solving white violence in the U.S

The focus of our dear leader, Herr Trump is to eliminate the Muslim population in the United States in order to minimize the death’s due to, “terrorism”. The U.S. Code of Federal Regulations defines terrorism as "the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives" (28 C.F.R. Section 0.85). If Herr Trump wants to use deaths caused by specific ideologies as his measuring stick in reducing terrorism, we should confirm which groups should be targeted. I’d argue we should look at mass acts of violence as the metric, with the goal of preventing mass casualities. 

 

From 9/11/2005- August 2017, there have been 225 deaths attributed to terrorism by the Justice department. Of these deaths, 98 were caused by Jihadists, 68 by members of the far-right/neo-conservative, and 8 were committed by African- Americans who claimed to be part of a seperatist movement. Of the 434 terrorists who have been charged or killed, half of them (217) were U.S. citizens at birth. Typical reaction to a jihadist committing a terrorist attack is that they are all evil and we should ban foreigners from entering the country. This doesn’t address the issue, as most are home-grown terrorists. Where is the rallying call to disarm the far-right wing militia groups or other separatists? Put simply: there is a dangerous double-standard in the way the United States views similar crimes from different groups. 

 

Let’s switch gears from terrorism to mass shootings specifically as introducing new gun laws and arguments of whom to target are current hot button issues. 

 

Grant Duwe is an American criminologist who is a leading authority on mass murder and institutional and community corrections. He is the research director at the Minnesota Department of Corrections, as well as a non-visiting scholar at Baylor University. In his book, “Mass Murder in the United States: A History”, he clarifies a simple point: white males are overwhelmingly, the highest percentage of mass-shooters in the United States. While there is no official definition of a public mass shooting, Duwe defines "mass public shooting" as an incident that occurs in the absence of other criminal activity, in which a gun was used to kill four or more victims at a public location within a 24-hour period.  Dating back to 1982, white males have accounted for approximately 64% of all mass shootings,  even though they only account for 31% of the U.S. population. The average age of white, male shooters hovered around 32 years old. Comparatively, African-Americans accounted for 16.5%, non-white Latino and Asian accounted for ~ 7.7% respectively.

 

Another starteling statistic is that of 292 weapons used by mass shooters, 167 of them were obtained LEGALLY, 49 illegally, and 76 were still mystery as to how they were obtained. 

 

Based on the information above, a typical mass shooting (terrorism?) typically involves:

 

Almost always males

Mostly white

Age 32 

legally own their weapon(s) 

May or may not have an ideology 

 

If Trump would like to target a population, the above information points to targeting (the mostly white) far-right groups/militias first, followed by self-proclaimed jihadists. 

 

Can you make a shoe stink?

Ahhh white people Reeeeeeee!

Everyone that isn't white should leave America because white people are shitting up the place. 

America is a horrible place to live. 

Captain CargoShorts: Pitbull Apologist - 

Everyone that isn't white should leave America because white people are shitting up the place. 

America is a horrible place to live. 


Yep

Great thread, OP! 

White people are over 60% of the population.

Do they commit 60% of the violent crime?

Stopped reading at join date 

"From 9/11/2005- August 2017, there have been 225 deaths attributed to terrorism by the Justice department. Of these deaths, 98 were caused by Jihadists,"

I love when the left brings up statistics, they always stop short of 9/11. How about you list the deaths by whites terrorists vs Jihadists since 01/01/2000?

And then tell us the percentage of whites vs Muslims in the US?

Do you really want to see white males get violent?  Considering they built ALL of modern civilization, would say not going to end well for the other side.  

Who invented repeating arms?

Nuclear weapons?

Latin, which most languages are derived from?

Scientific method?

Television?

The internet?

Electricity?

Air conditioning?

Vaccines?  

Yes they are the problem, ok.

But theyhave all the guns, and know how to use them.

FrontBroRian - "From 9/11/2005- August 2017, there have been 225 deaths attributed to terrorism by the Justice department. Of these deaths, 98 were caused by Jihadists,"

I love when the left brings up statistics, they always stop short of 9/11. How about you list the deaths by whites terrorists vs Jihadists since 01/01/2000?

And then tell us the percentage of whites vs Muslims in the US?

I used a stat for mass shootings starting from 1982

 

9/11 is a starting point for the official war on terrorism and the creation of right limiting legislation such as, the patriot act 

Buffer720 -

Do you really want to see white males get violent?  Considering they built ALL of modern civilization, would say not going to end well for the other side.  

Who invented repeating arms?

Nuclear weapons?

Latin, which most languages are derived from?

Scientific method?

Television?

The internet?

Electricity?

Air conditioning?

Vaccines?  

Yes they are the problem, ok.

But theyhave all the guns, and know how to use them.

I'd like to reduce their access to guns as they are arguably the highest risk group to commit future acts of terrorism and/or mass shootings. 

 

The current narrative uses a similar view to restrict and limit those from "Mooslim" countries. 

I need a "fucking white people" shirt

This is a terrible troll lol and if it isn’t it’s just a terrible thread. Leave the white people alone.

Ramon Maroni - 
Captain CargoShorts: Pitbull Apologist - 

Everyone that isn't white should leave America because white people are shitting up the place. 

America is a horrible place to live. 


Yep

Yet, it's among the most migrated to.

(I'm not American)

jthag -
FrontBroRian - "From 9/11/2005- August 2017, there have been 225 deaths attributed to terrorism by the Justice department. Of these deaths, 98 were caused by Jihadists,"

I love when the left brings up statistics, they always stop short of 9/11. How about you list the deaths by whites terrorists vs Jihadists since 01/01/2000?

And then tell us the percentage of whites vs Muslims in the US?

I used a stat for mass shootings starting from 1982

 

9/11 is a starting point for the official war on terrorism and the creation of right limiting legislation such as, the patriot act 

Also the reason for less Jihadi deaths in the US was because the population of Middle East and North Africans were pretty low so there weren't that many here. In the 1980's there were only about 250k in the US.  

Also that population was mainly highly educated elites from countries including Iran, Egypt, Iraq, and Syria.

Then the US relaxed its immigration standards and you can see the result.  Same thing in Europe.

 

Here's a chart showing the increase:

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/sites/default/files/source_images/SPT-MENA-2018-F1-large.png

 

Mo Phenomenal -

This is a terrible troll lol and if it isn’t it’s just a terrible thread. Leave the white people alone.

This is an obvious case of white privelage. 

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Internet Trolls Are Narcissists, Psychopaths, and Sadists

Trolls will lie, exaggerate, and offend to get a response.

Posted Sep 18, 2014

In this month's issue of Personality and Individual Differences, a study was published that confirms what we all suspected: Internet trolls are horrible people. The OP is a glaring example of why a woman should not drink during pregnancy.

Let's start by getting our definitions straight: An Internet troll is someone who comes into a discussion and posts comments designed to upset or disrupt the conversation. Often, in fact, it seems like there is no real purpose behind their comments except to upset everyone else involved. Trolls will lie, exaggerate, and offend to get a response.

What kind of person would do this? Some Canadian researchers decided to find out.

They conducted two online studies with over 1,200 people, giving personality tests to each subject along with a survey about their Internet commenting behavior. They were looking for evidence that linked trolling with the "Dark Tetrad" of personality traits: narcissism, Machiavellianism, psychopathy, and sadism.

They found that Dark Tetrad scores were highest among people who said trolling was their favorite Internet activity. To get an idea of how much more prevalent these traits were among Internet trolls, see this figure from the paper:

Look at how low the Dark Tetrad scores are for everyone except the trolls! Their scores for all four traits soar on the chart. The relationship between trolling and the Dark Tetrad is so significant that the authors write in their paper:

"... the associations between sadism and GAIT (Global Assessment of Internet Trolling) scores were so strong that it might be said that online trolls are prototypical everyday sadists." [emphasis added]

Trolls truly enjoy making you feel bad. To quote the authors once more (because this is a truly quotable article): "Both trolls and sadists feel sadistic glee at the distress of others. Sadists just want to have fun ... and the Internet is their playground!"

The next time you encounter a troll online, remember:

These trolls are some truly difficult people.
It is your suffering that brings them pleasure, so the best thing you can do is ignore them.

References

Buckels, Erin E., Paul D. Trapnell, and Delroy L. Paulhus. "Trolls just want to have fun." Personality and Individual Differences67 (2014): 97-102.

So what you’re saying is white people are under represented. Gotcha.