Sounds like shooter was a gambler going bust

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/10/03/new-details-emerge-about-las-vegas-shooter-stephen-paddock-and-girlfriend-marilou-danley/?utm_term=.2b912ebcfb70

Paddock met Marilou Danley several years ago while she was working as a high-limit hostess for Club Paradise at the Atlantis Casino Resort Spa in Reno, Nev., said his brother Eric Paddock.

“They were adorable — big man, tiny woman. He loved her. He doted on her,” Eric said.

The two often gambled side by side, he said. Authorities say that prior to the shooting Paddock transferred a large amount of money — close to $100,000 — to someone in the Philippines, possibly his girlfriend. Eric Paddock said he now believes his brother may have been trying to arrange for Danley to be abroad before carrying out his massacre.

Employees at a Starbucks in Mesquite, Nev., however, described the couple’s relationship differently. A supervisor at the coffee shop told the Los Angeles Times that Paddock often berated Danley in public. The Starbucks is the only one in the town of Mesquite and is inside the Virgin River Casino.

“It happened a lot,” Esperanza Mendoza, supervisor of the Starbucks, told the Times. He would verbally abuse her when Danley asked to use his casino card to buy food or other things inside the casino, Esperanza said.

“He would glare down at her and say — with a mean attitude — ‘You don’t need my casino card for this. I’m paying for your drink, just like I’m paying for you.’ Then she would softly say, ‘Okay’ and step back behind him. He was so rude to her in front of us.”

Paddock invested and sold several properties in recent years, as a way of making money, relatives and property records show. Neighbors at two other properties owned by Paddock in Reno and Mesquite, Nev., said Danley lived with Paddock there as well and often disappeared with him for long stretches — sometimes for months at a time — during his visits to casinos.

At one point, Danley worked for an airline based out of California’s Bay Area, said one longtime neighbor in Reno, where Danley and Paddock lived together in a retirement community. She later worked for Avon, the cosmetic sales company, and tried to sell their products to other residents, Elizabeth Tyee said. Danley traveled all the time, and when she was at the home she shared with Paddock in a retirement community in Reno, it was never for very long. Tyee said Danley would show up every three or four months and stay for no more than 10 days.

Danley has a daughter and grandchildren, Tyee said. Type and many other neighbors described Danley as extremely sweet and friendly. She hugged her when they saw each other. Paddock, however, was more standoffish and unfriendly.

Another neighbor, Susan Page, who moved next door to the couple this summer, said she had not seen them since August. Paddock had recently bought a new silver minivan, she said, and Danley drove an SUV. On the third week of August, Paddock left the house. Soon after, Danley packed up her car as well, as if she was moving, Page said.

 

More details have also emerged on Paddock, the gunman.

From 1976 to 1985, Paddock worked U.S. government jobs: as a letter carrier for the U.S. Postal Service, an agent for the IRS  and an auditor for U.S. government’s Defense Contract Audit Agency, according to the Office of Personnel Management.

Neighbors in several states where he owned homes in retirement communities described him as surly, unfriendly and standoffish.

Relatives say the roots of Paddock’s loner lifestyle may have been planted July 28, 1960. On that day, when Paddock was 7, a neighbor from across the street took him swimming. The neighbor at the time told a local newspaper that she knew authorities were coming for his father, a bank robber, and she wanted to spare the boy the trauma of seeing his father hauled away by authorities.

From that point on, Paddock’s family was never the same.

His mother struggled to raise him and his four brothers on her own. His father escaped from prison — twice — and had little more contact with them, relatives say. As they grew older, Stephen, the eldest, and the youngest brother, Eric, kept in touch, but Stephen Paddock drifted almost completely out of touch with his two other brothers, Bruce and Patrick.

Eric said Stephen stopped talking to his brother Bruce because Bruce used to beat him up when they were kids. And that Stephen stopped talking to Patrick, because they’re very different people.

Even with Eric, he never talked much. They created a lucrative real estate investment business together, but Stephen would only text Eric now and then.

“We didn’t talk much. We talked when there was something to talk about,” said Eric Paddock. “Steve had no help. Steve did not take help. He was a stand-alone guy.”

Choking up as he talked, Eric said: “Steve was like a dad surrogate. He took me camping. I liked my brother. He was a good guy.”

 

His high school

 

Stephen Paddock went to John H. Francis Polytechnic High School, in the Los Angeles suburbs, his brother said.

Judy Smith Nelson, a retired federal worker living in Las Vegas, was stunned when she first saw that she and the alleged shooter were the same age — 64. Then a friend texted her a picture from an old high school yearbook.

“I couldn’t believe it, I recognized the face, we had been classmates,” Nelson said Tuesday.

As investigators continued searching for a motive, anyone who had come into contact with Paddock over more than four decades began to wrestle with what they knew of the man and whether there had ever been clues of what would come.

Former California state senator Richard Alarcon, who had gotten his start as student body president of John H. Francis Polytechnic High School in 1971, posted a note to friends on Facebook on Tuesday saying he remembered playing basketball with Paddock at a neighborhood court.

Another classmate remembered Paddock showing up at a 20-year reunion and repeatedly angling to talk to her.

 
 

Nelson, in Las Vegas, fished through an old box of keepsakes and found a 10-year reunion program that contained a one-line description that each classmate had written. Paddock’s read: “Single, accountant, has traveled to Hollywood, lives in Sepulveda [Calif.]”

“We’re all just reeling, and here I have kind of a personal connection, being that we walked the same grounds, we were from the same area,” Nelson said.

After high school, Paddock attended Cal State Northridge. He was married and divorced twice. Both ex-wives — one in the L.A. area, the other in the Dallas suburbs — declined to talk to reporters.

Gambling is an addiction and should be treated seriously

 

So basically the brother can't be trusted whatsoever, he paints his brother out to be this good guy, but not a single casual witness or bystander that interacted with him said he was anything other than rude or stand offish, even angry.

He didn't behave like the successful man his brother paints him out to be, he behaved like a bitter addict going from fix to fix.

The brother has been misinforming big time, probably due to his own lack of insight and wanting to remember his father figure big brother as this good guy, which maybe to his little brother he was.

where does it say he was going busto?

 

and if he was wouldn't he sell his house and belongings before doing this ? im sure his 2 planes are worth some money 

 

he wired his gf 100 grand but he is going bust ? 

Where in any of that did you surmise that he was going broke, and if he was, that it was related to gambling?

Luke Rockhard - 

Where in any of that did you surmise that he was going broke, and if he was, that it was related to gambling?


"Employees at a Starbucks in Mesquite, Nev., however, described the couple's relationship differently. A supervisor at the coffee shop told the Los Angeles Times that Paddock often berated Danley in public. The Starbucks is the only one in the town of Mesquite and is inside the Virgin River Casino.

"It happened a lot," Esperanza Mendoza, supervisor of the Starbucks, told the Times. He would verbally abuse her when Danley asked to use his casino card to buy food or other things inside the casino, Esperanza said."


It's simple his bankroll couldn't handle the swings. He got hooked to high stakes gambling and couldn't afford it anymore without liquidating assets, his babyboomer ego wouldn't allow him to take steps back like that.

CRE - So basically the brother can't be trusted whatsoever, he paints his brother out to be this good guy, but not a single casual witness or bystander that interacted with him said he was anything other than rude or stand offish, even angry.

He didn't behave like the successful man his brother paints him out to be, he behaved like a bitter addict going from fix to fix.

The brother has been misinforming big time, probably due to his own lack of insight and wanting to remember his father figure big brother as this good guy, which maybe to his little brother he was.

People often have differing opinions of people based upon their interactions, how do you say which is accurate?  

Do rich people stress the cost of food lol?

He was a typical degen, he only told his brother of his big wins and not the big losses.

The casinos won't want the reveal that he was a gambling addict that went bust because it's bad business.

Rich people stress about the most insignificant things so, to answer your question, yes.  I'm not saying that this guy wasnt a total dick, outside of the fact that we know he's one of the biggest cunts that has ever lived, but, your assessment that his brother cannot be trusted is nothing more than conjecture.

“He would glare down at her and say — with a mean attitude — ‘You don’t need my casino card for this. I’m paying for your drink, just like I’m paying for you.’ Then she would softly say, ‘Okay’ and step back behind him. He was so rude to her in front of us."

 

if i was a lonely old man who paid a girl for her presence i would be a little annoyed if she kept asking for extra money 

akbar87 - 

where does it say he was going busto?

 

and if he was wouldn't he sell his house and belongings before doing this ? im sure his 2 planes are worth some money 

 

he wired his gf 100 grand but he is going bust ? 


100 grand isn't shit, especially if he was a high stakes gambler. That's like 10 hands.

Sure he could have liquidated his assets, but that doesn't mean his ego or mental state would allow it.

There's no use in speaking rationally like this guy that just shot all these people was rational.

Yah I'm sure his trashy old planes are worth some money, like a few hands.

Everyone keeps speaking of his assets, but nobody talks about his potential liabilities.

AHEM..CREDIT CARD DEBT? For all we know that 100k he wired was taken out on a credit line.

"It happened a lot," Esperanza Mendoza, supervisor of the Starbucks, told the Times. He would verbally abuse her when Danley asked to use his casino card to buy food or other things inside the casino, Esperanza said."

His bankroll wasn't big enough for the stakes he was playing, in my opinion.

Some people are acting like he owned two private jets. You can buy a used plane for 15-30 grand.

 

you have no facts to prove he was going bust so stop making shit up

akbar87 - 

you have no facts to prove he was going bust so stop making shit up


You have no facts to prove he wasn't going bust.

CRE -
akbar87 - 

you have no facts to prove he was going bust so stop making shit up


You have no facts to prove he wasn't going bust.

i didnt start a thread claiming he was if i did i would have facts to back up it 

 

 

akbar87 - 
CRE -
akbar87 - 

you have no facts to prove he was going bust so stop making shit up


You have no facts to prove he wasn't going bust.

i didnt start a thread claiming he was if i did i would have facts to back up it 

 

 


I said "sounds like" this thread is clearly speculation.

CRE -


Everyone keeps speaking of his assets, but nobody talks about his potential liabilities.



AHEM..CREDIT CARD DEBT? For all we know that 100k he wired was taken out on a credit line.



"It happened a lot," Esperanza Mendoza, supervisor of the Starbucks, told the Times. He would verbally abuse her when Danley asked to use his casino card to buy food or other things inside the casino, Esperanza said."



His bankroll wasn't big enough for the stakes he was playing, in my opinion.



Some people are acting like he owned two private jets. You can buy a used plane for 15-30 grand.



 

He likely had markers out to several casinos as well. He was a well known degen that despite owning at least one house often lived in casinos for months. That lifestyle doesn't seem especially healthy for the mind or body.

Since he was never military or known to be a gun guy, he may have been making an anti gun final statement or an anti LV one. Maybe both.

 

 

post some facts and maybe i will agree with you but a couple quotes from a starbucks supervirsor won't do it