I'm looking for some 18 oz. hook and loop sparring gloves from either
Title Boxing or Ringside. I was wondering about any input. I notice the
Title Boxing Pro T Mex elastic training glove appears to be lace up AND
hook and loop. Can you just slide these on? Ringside has an Ultimate
Classic Training Glove that looks pretty cool.
There are numerous others offered by both companies at lower prices and
I'm curious if there is really any difference between them.
Thanks in advance.
With boxing gloves you tend to get what you pay for.
You get what you pay for with most everything. If I pay more, what is IT
that I'm paying for? Further, some of the 2 gloves I mentioned specifically
cost about the same.
I have a pair of the ringside ultimate classic training gloves that are only rated at 16 ounces of padding. Don't let the 16 oz fool you tho, they must weigh upwards of 2 pounds and the 2 inches of that 4 layer foam stuff is no joke.
I've dealt plenty of hurt with other gloves but I don't think i caused as much as a bloody nose with those gloves. They have a very similar feel to the Ringside 20oz big hitter gloves- slightly smaller and just a tiny bit less soft.
Personally I don't like 'em, I think they're TOO safe (hard to keep people honest), they're really front heavy & bulky so it's hard to throw tight combos, and they almost feel "soggy"- kinda like everlast training gloves (but bulkier and heavier). That being said, the construction's pretty high quality, and the pocket fit is actually not that bad.
Give 'em a shot (the 16z or 18s) if you're worried about hurting your training partners.
I have no experience with the Title Pro T Mexican elastic, but the fact that it's a mexican glove leads me to believe that you'd really need 18s with those, while with the ringside ultimates 16s would probly do you fine.
Still, if i was gonna recommend any glove, I have to pimp Grant, they're my fave'.
The Grants don't have a hook and loop closure, right? I'm not sure I want
to be fiddling around with laces everytime. What do you think? Thanks
for your help.
Cheap gloves tend to fall apart. High end gloves protect your hands better.
Sorry to take so long to get back to you.
This is what you need:
http://www.ringside.com/DETAIL.ASPX?ID=24716
http://store.titleboxing.com/titleboxing-hook-and-loop-glove-converters.html
PorkChop:
Thanks for your input. Would you suggest Grant sparring gloves with
these converters? Is the fit as snug as the real hook and loop gloves?
PorkChop:
I just checked out the Grants. They run about $120. I'm guessing you
think that they're worth the extra dough.
Those Grant gloves are worth it to me, however they might not be worth it to you. Gloves are really about personal preference. Reyes are amazing gloves, but i don't like 'em coz they don't fit me well.
Part of the game is finding what works for you.
It might be easier to get a durable lower-end glove and wait until you've got the throw away cash & better idea of what you're looking for in a glove before you experiment with Grant or Reyes.
I think I would only go for the Ringside Ultimate Classics if I was already in love with the standard Ringside "Safety Training" gloves, which are pretty much the same thing with a cheaper grade of leather, a different liner cloth (no coolmax), and maybe a shorter cuff - appears to be less than the 5 inches on the Ultimate.
I've never tried the Title (or ringside) mexican style gloves, so I can't really comment. The one pair of Title gloves I've ever owned I liked a lot- a pair of 24oz safety gloves. The foam never felt as mushy as the ringside safety gloves, they fit my hand well, and held up great as my main pair of gloves.
If you are purely looking for a glove that will last forever; I've never seen a pair of gloves hold up better, longer than Tufwear. They may not be pretty, have soft leather, or fit you well (i have no idea how they fit new), but these gloves cannot be killed by conventional means:
http://store.titleboxing.com/title-tuf-wear-lace-up-training-gloves.html
Almost forgot to answer your question:
lace up gloves with glovers assistants versus straight velcro gloves:
straight velcro gloves usually use an elastic band at the base of the palm to keep the glove snug, sometimes this isn't enough, sometimes this is too tight.
The nice thing about a lace up with a glover's assistant is that you'll still keep the laces in the top part, so you can get a tighter fit over the palm if you like. They do take a bit of tailoring & customization before they're near as convenient as straight velcro, though, so keep that in mind.
PorkChop:
Thanks for all the help! I really appreciate it. If it matters, I'm not trying
to become a pro or anything. I am a beginner boxer who most-likely will
always suck. I have done BJJ for quite a while and just started boxing to
change it up. I love it and do it for a hobby. If that changes anything let
me know.
Based upon what you said, I probably will go with the Tufwear and the
glove assistant.
Thanks again!
what if your primary purchase criteria are:
1) A glove that will not give your opponent brain damage (even if he's at a 30 lb weight disadvantage). - what weight glove do you think offers a good level of protection without being ridiculously big?
2) reasonably comfortable, yet reasonably easy to get on and off. Laces sound like more hassle than they're worth to me.
thanks
Whitson:
First, I understand your points and concerns. However, you must first
have a brain to have it damaged ;-). Regarding the laces, as you will
notice in the above posts, this has been addressed by DaPorkChop. It
sounds like laces with the glove assistant is the way to go. It allows for a
better fit and if the velcro gives out on the hook and loop gloves, you're
out a pair of gloves.
I've had velcro bag gloves for 8 years now, and the velcro is still going strong. The glove assistant seems a littl too McGuyver to me. I think I prefer to keep it simple and run that slight risk of an imperfect fit.
I've read that the velcro is hit and miss. Evidently, you hit with those. I've
read a bunch of horror stories about the velcro however.
If you can find a velcro that comes recommended, that weighs 20 oz., that
lasts a long time, that costs about the same, I'm cool with it.
Ringside ultimate classics and Ringside IMF will both keep your partner from getting brain damage, even at only 16 ounces, they just don't work well for me. Someone else might not find any issues with them. I know a few guys who swear by those gloves (the ultimates).
I have only had 1 pair of titles and really haven't had access to too many pairs, but even their sweetheart gloves (safety gloves) are a bit firm, not sure they're what you're looking for.
Twins thai kickboxing gloves are good too, 16 ounce should be okay. They have a really soft foam, I used to outweigh my partners by a lot and never had any complaints about my Twins eventhough they were only 14 ounces- of course i would never really go for the KO with them.
Just heard a good recommendation for Rival brand gloves; but don't have any experience with them yet.
I would definitely not recommend anything "Mexican style" because mexican style gloves tend to distribute their padding across the whole glove and not just the knuckles.
Winning and "Japanese style" gloves are the most safety-conscious gloves, providing the most padding over the knuckles. Of course Winning will run you over 200 and I'm not sure who makes a Japanese style glove anymore.
Velcro can be a bad thing if the hard part of the velcro is exposed- can really scrape up your partners. That's why Ringside gloves all have an elastic sleeve that covers the velcro- it can be a pain tho.
Dun worry bout asking questions, I like providing my opinions; but keep in mind a lot of my view points are just that: opinions.