I've been training since 03'. I rarely ever get caught in guillotines. However, my younger brother is 155lbs and has skinny ass forearms that seem to be able to slide under people's throats with ease! Including mine. If you drop levels for a takedown and leave the slightest amount of room between your shoulder and his body, he sinks it in. It's not just me neither. He catches everyone in it. Any of you guys train with anyone like this. I know some people love triangles, armbars, etc. His damn move is that guillotine and I'm open to suggestions on staying out of it. Thanks
Keep your head up when you shoot. You tuck your chin and you're just inviting the choke.
Keeping your head up does work most of the time. I usually try to somewhat arch my neck backwards. Just like your normal arching posture when trying to avoid the person on bottom submission attempts. The difference in my brother and most 55ers is that his strength levels are out of this world. Kid feels like he weighs 200+. The guys I train with are all 210 and up. He is used to training with us. So he has the mat strength of one of us. I'm gonna focus more on keeping my head up when dropping levels. I appreciate it. Any more suggestions would be greatly appreciated as well.
When they attack with the guillotine try to pass immediately to the opposite side of the guillotine. Getting caught in a guillotine in closed a closed guard is very hard to escape.
Do takedowns off of the clinch instead of double legs.
Have you tried doing doubles with your head in the center? Pretty much you punch your head through their stomach and wrap the legs up, we called it a train double when I wrestled in HS.
Keeps your head out of trouble.
Or maybe its the finish on the double. When you turn the corner and run him, your goal is to land in side mount, so if he has a choke its worthless anyway.
When you run the double, its common for guys to put one hand on the his hip and run, but that allows him to throw a leg up and pull guard.
Grab behind both knees as you turn the corner and his legs should fly right past you as you land in side control.
My 2 cents.
James Funaro - Or maybe its the finish on the double. When you turn the corner and run him, your goal is to land in side mount, so if he has a choke its worthless anyway.
When you run the double, its common for guys to put one hand on the his hip and run, but that allows him to throw a leg up and pull guard.
Grab behind both knees as you turn the corner and his legs should fly right past you as you land in side control.
My 2 cents.
that 2 cents is worth at least a dollar. We were just working on exactly this in class tonight.
Easy fix. Stop shooting. Establish a head position and with good posture you can push anyone around. It's much easier to rip your takedown from there anyway, if you can swing it. I've never had a problem getting caught with knees or guillotines because I prefer to do this way. Just double off pummelling, knee pick, or work various clinch takedowns such as an inside trip, use your double unders, etc.
Bro, no shame in your lil' bro kicking your ass. We all grow old buddy. Just re-gift his next X-mas present back to him.
only thing that is defenite is tryin to move hips to opposite side immeadiatly to still get the takedown and try for the dominant position...tuckin chin and changing body weight
lowkicksanonymous - Easy fix. Stop shooting. Establish a head position and with good posture you can push anyone around. It's much easier to rip your takedown from there anyway, if you can swing it. I've never had a problem getting caught with knees or guillotines because I prefer to do this way. Just double off pummelling, knee pick, or work various clinch takedowns such as an inside trip, use your double unders, etc.
pppffft, I would say shoot a crap ton until you get it right on him. Its training so when a guy is good at stuffing your attacks, attack him with it until you get it right.
Now if it was a fight, go with your good oskills and such, but in training you also want to work on things your bad at.