I'd like to revive this thread.
Discuss:
http://stickgrappler.tripod.com/ug/jmsumhub.html
http://www.stickgrappler.net/2002/02/sumbrada-hudud-whats-up-thread-started.html
I've been on and off (mostly off) moving my old archives to my new site. Took this as a sign to get it going again LOL