So today me and a few co-workers went to lunch at Chipotle. We were eating when these two guys walked in from Gracie Barra here in Orlando, Florida.
Anyway, my co-workers and I got into a discussion about Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and Submission. One of my co-workers is HUGE into powerlifting (He plans to compete soon) said that it would be damn near impossible to get him in anykind of submission because of his raw strength.
I've seen a lot of big, strong, powerful guys get caught in submissions and they tapped as easily as somebody 1/2 their size.
Would his muscle mass and strength make it a lot harder to get him in a submission or could he be submitted just as easily as anybody else?
TANK ABBOTT FOOL
rear naked choke will take care of that, that & his cardio. big guys are not so tough after 4-5 minutes of rolling.
ofcourse it would be harder to sub a power lifter then an average joe but its not like they are immune to subs or something...
stupid ? why are you asking a question you should already know the answer to
Yeah, I figured a rear naked choke would get him. But I was referring more to armbars, shoulder cranks, kneebars, etc.
I told him that he could still be submitted and he swore up and down it wouldn't work so I figured I'd ask for more opinions.
Ask Pedro Sauer.
Not exactly a powerlifter, but still looks pretty fucken strong.
It depends on his level of training and the size of the powerlifter and BJJ guy. If they are near the same size then I don't think it would be a big problem. If its your average BJJ guy against a very large powerlifter, then it's a different situation.
Unless he's training his ankles they'll break just as easily as anybody else's.
RNC too.
Wait for them to gas (2 minutes) and they're easier to submit than regular guys.
"There is no tough guy in a choke" - Rorion Gracie
Yep, get on his back and gas him out. Should be a piece of cake if he doesn't train submissions.
Yeah, I train. He doesn't. But I'm also a 6'3, 250lb guy. It was just a general conversation. He'd never agree to roll to prove me right or wrong.
Take the back.
I used to roll with the former Australian powerlifting champion. He could dead 360kgs (800lbs)... Was great working with him for a year or so. Generally you'd have to use movement, and usually taking the back was most effective.
First of all, great vid! That's an old school bjj player, with the horrible boxing, right there vs. a strong man.
I think this proves that a bjj player, giving up 100 lbs., can win. However you have to be real here and admit that this was a bjj black belt, not a white belt with two stripes.
Being big alone does not make you a great fighter (as so many gym rats think) but it doesn't hurt any - as long long as you also have cardio.
Former national level competitive powerlifter here.
Submissions work just fine on me.
...i find it easier to tapout bigger stronger guys, depending on their level of training, the guys that don't know Gracie Jiu Jitsu at all, are too easy...RNC works best with least amount of risk involved vs a bigger stronger guy.
Nobody in the world is so strong that theyre immune to being submitted.
You could find a 300lb worlds strongest man who could survive against a tiny black belt but what does that prove?
Unless you take that powerlifter and train him for 10 years or so and then youd wind up with a Monson type whos not only experienced but so stocky and strong that theyre extremely hard to sub.
"...i find it easier to tapout bigger stronger guys, depending on their level of training, the guys that don't know Gracie Jiu Jitsu at all, are too easy...RNC works best with least amount of risk involved vs a bigger stronger guy. "- xalx
"depending on their level of training" - nuff said
Sapp Vs Nog at Dynamite.... took him a bit of time (and a beatdown) but he still beat a giant by anyones standards