Suicidal Tendences..a gang?!

I grew up listening to Suicidal Tendencies. I remember the lead singer Mike Muir dressing like a Mexican gang banger. I just thought this was because he grew up amongst some . I just read an article that said the Suicidal tendencies was a street gang. They were called the Suicidal Boys and I guess they are still around… ? I guess there were quite a few white punk gangs that fought each other… My mind is blown

Anyone in California know more about this? Do any of these white gangs still exist ?

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All he wanted was a Pepsi 

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https://youtu.be/OioDcMoiyKw

Google fender’s ballroom gangs. There were a bunch. 

I don't play craps, but on the rare occasions I'm at a casino and playing, I'll occasionally throw down a bet on six the hard way because of their EP from the late 90's.

Never thought of them as a gang though

Always thought cyco Miko was down with the crypts.  Fuck if I know 

Darth Potato -

Always thought cyco Miko was down with the crypts.  Fuck if I know 

The Crypts?

 ![Beware the Crypt Keeper – Channel Futures](upload://23PQdZdJaIX6xCiNubEolny5dKk.gif)

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I am not an expert here, but there was a gang in the area called V13 (Venice 13) that was big in Venice & Dogtown,when I was growing up. --Or maybe Dogtown was a separate gang territory? I don’t remember.

The White Venice dudes kind of adopted that style. SOME maybe were in V13 or whatever gang proper, but MOST were just dudes trying to cop the cholo style, which kinda morphed into it’s own “White Guy Venice Cholo look” with the Vans and sh!t you still see echos of today.

Lots of guys like to sort of pretend / hint at they’re in gangs simply because ONE cholo in the neighborhood down the block knows their name.

Gang culture definitely influences street culture & fashion and from my perspective, that’s what it mostly was. That’s where all of Skateboardings gang style fonts (“placas”) you would see on decks, comes from.

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Join the Army is a fucking terrific album

Mike and Bill Paxton delivered newspapers for the same company and were friend last before each got famous.  He’d talk about auditions and mike would talk about music and forming his band.  He wrote a nice tribute to bill after he died. Small world. 

https://www.theprp.com/2017/03/30/news/late-actor-bill-paxton-stage-dived-body-count-show/

Venice suicidals sur threces wich was a punk rock gang that was a clique off of V13. Jay Adams was a V13 also. Beowulf had a gang called Beowulf boyz also. 

House of Pain were a punk rock gang called Mickey Mouse Club in the Valley

TSOL started LA Death Squad wich the Long Beach chapter woul morph into PENI which is a white peckerwood and prison gang. 

 

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HillboFrateTrane -

Mike and Bill Paxton delivered newspapers for the same company and were friend last before each got famous.  He’d talk about auditions and mike would talk about music and forming his band.  He wrote a nice tribute to bill after he died. Small world. 

https://www.theprp.com/2017/03/30/news/late-actor-bill-paxton-stage-dived-body-count-show/

I staged dived a Body Count show at the Troubadour. Was very front at the stage when IceT popped his future wife’s tits out a foot from my face. Good show. 

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Darth Potato -

Always thought cyco Miko was down with the crypts.  Fuck if I know 

The Crypts?

 ![Beware the Crypt Keeper – Channel Futures](upload://23PQdZdJaIX6xCiNubEolny5dKk.gif)

LOL!

I deserve that.

fucking auto correct.

shen - I am not an expert here, but there was a gang in the area called V13 (Venice 13) that was big in Venice & Dogtown,when I was growing up. --Or maybe Dogtown was a separate gang territory? I don't remember.

The White Venice dudes kind of adopted that style. SOME maybe were in V13 or whatever gang proper, but MOST were just dudes trying to cop the cholo style, which kinda morphed into it’s own “White Guy Venice Cholo look” with the Vans and sh!t you still see echos of today.

Lots of guys like to sort of pretend / hint at they’re in gangs simply because ONE cholo in the neighborhood down the block knows their name.

Gang culture definitely influences street culture & fashion and from my perspective, that’s what it mostly was. That’s where all of Skateboardings gang style fonts (“placas”) you would see on decks, comes from.

She is exactly right, I grew up in LA and V13 wasnt large but they were dangerous and crazy. They were like a mix of Latinos and whites, many of mixed blood as well. I’d see them at punk concerts beating up the biggest guy they could find or the biggest asshole (usually the same person)

Super good friend of mine is currently directing a documentary on them. Monster energy is producing it. I’ll post something later today if it’s available. 

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Saw them in 90 with Pantera and Exodus headlining. Fucking best show ever. Utter crush. It might as well been just Pantera and ST because we were exhausted after them.

Funny, they were a band who constantly worked to say they weren’t a gang and now bitch ass performers do their best to appear as one.

Yes and it was a big part of who they were early on.

one of my fave memeories ever is singing on stage with Mike at an ST show when they let the crowd come up, I was the first one over the rail and went right up to him and grabbed one of the backup mics and sang Pledge Your Allegiance with like 30 other ppl on stage going nuts

Every ST show I ever saw was so great man. Amazing energy. The 2018 Misfits/Suicidal/Murphys Law/Cromags show in NJ was abslutely unreal.

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shen - I am not an expert here, but there was a gang in the area called V13 (Venice 13) that was big in Venice & Dogtown,when I was growing up. --Or maybe Dogtown was a separate gang territory? I don't remember.

The White Venice dudes kind of adopted that SOME maybe were in V13 or whatever gang proper, but MOST were just dudes trying to cop the cholo which kinda morphed into it’s own “White Guy Venice Cholo look” with the Vans and sh!t you still see echos of today.

Lots of guys like to sort of pretend / hint at they’re in gangs simply because ONE cholo in the neighborhood down the block knows their name.

Gang culture definitely influences street culture & fashion and from my perspective, that’s what it mostly was. That’s where all of Skateboardings gang fonts (“placas”) you would see on decks, comes from.

She is exactly right, I grew up in LA and V13 wasnt large but they were dangerous and crazy. They were like a mix of Latinos and whites, many of mixed blood as well. I’d see them at punk concerts beating up the biggest guy they could find or the biggest asshole (usually the same person)

Hey you ever come across La Mirada Punks much? There’s a book a dude from there wrote about the old la punk rock gang scene but dude talks like they were the baddest so curious. The FFF and Mickey Mouse were the big guys out here by me back then but I was only 13 or 14 when most of the punk rock gangs stuff ended and they went all the way to cholo or peckerwood. And why do they call it Dog Town when Dogtown is the original first gang neighborhood in downtown L.A. that was next to the original dog pound in the early 1900s? 

 

And It’s not white cholo ya dicks!..It’s peckerwood p funk styl.e damnit! We wear our white socks up with our vans.  None of that black sock bro shit. Your Dickie shorts must be one inch below the knee and all LA Dodgers hats get flipped up or kept very straight. No curving that shit for the woodpile. Your white t shirt should be a Pro Club T if possible since they have elastic in the collar so stay tight. The reason cholos and woods dress the same is it’s actually Prison styl3. The hardcore Black gangsters did it too. Only thing that really changes is the shoes. Vans or chucks for whiteboys. Cortez for Cholos and Nikes or chucks for black. 

 

It’s quite silly but comfy. 

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If anyone’s interested. V13 is a Mexican cholo gang. Fought Venice Shoreline Crips a bunch. Suicidals are a subclique of that but not the only one. The styl.3 doesn’t originate with them but was made famous by them. Venice  Whiteboys is another one that would be the real version of Edward Norton’s gang in American History X

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_peckerwood_gangs

Gangs in the Venice, Los Angeles area include:

Now defunct gangs in the area include:

  • The Venice Hoodlums / Venice Whiteboys / White Warriors, a peckerwood skate and surf punk gang affiliated with the Sureños subset Venice 13. The gang went defunct around 1986-87. The gang was known to share territory with Venice 13 and resided in the heart of East Venice St. and Penmar Ave. all the way to Venice High School.[29]
  • The Beowulf gang, a thrasher peckerwood skate punk gang affiliated with the Sureños subset Venice 13.[31]

 

Stupid question but i have to ask but, did they get their name (LMP) from the city of La Mirada ?