Take condom off = rape. "Stealthing" New trend

http://www.wtsp.com/news/local/stealthing-the-practice-of-removing-condoms-during-sex-is-on-the-rise/433971040

The practice of removing condoms during sex

There’s a disturbing new trend with dangerous consequences. Men are taking off their condoms during consensual sex, then bragging about it online.

It’s called ‘stealthing.’ According to Alexandra Brodsky, who conducted a study on the practice, the act could violate several civil and criminal laws.

Brodsky details stealthing in a report she did for Columbia Journal of Gender and Law. In it, she profiles a doctoral student named Rebecca. While she's not studying, Rebecca works for a local rape crisis hotline. She hears about stealthing a lot from students and says often times, callers start with, ‘I’m not sure this is rape, but…’

Rebecca says she was a victim of stealthing when she was a freshman. According to Brodsky, the law is largely silent on it.

It took almost no time for us to find students like Aubree Segismondi on the USF campus, who’ve at least heard of stealthing.

“I've seen it in social media,” said Segismondi .

“It's not ethical and it's not right,” added student Luana Dias.

All seemed to agree it’s an unsettling and possibly dangerous sex trend.

“Yeah, I mean you're susceptible to STDs, pregnancy, stuff like that. Emotional trauma,” said Jessi Rowe, in her third year at USF.

A new study in the Columbia Journal of Gender and Law defines stealthing as a man secretly removing his condom in the middle of sex.

The author of the study makes the argument that doing so should be treated as a form of sexual assault.

Kathleen Kempke, with the Crisis Center of Tampa Bay, says she's aware of the study – and the trend.

“I have had other cases that I've been very similar to this,” said Kempke.

As far as the crisis center is concerned, a person who feels violated is a victim.

“And they deserve the same kind of services and support that a victim that is raped by a stranger or a raped by an acquaintance would get,” said Kempke.

The study also pointed to online forums. Men, bragging about stealthing. How to get away with it. Even suggesting it's their right to, "spread one's seed".

“I think they should find a mate that's willing to procreate with them at the time,” said USF Junior Joseph Aldrich, “But if they have a condom on, then there's not an idea of procreation. It's more for pleasure.”

As far as using existing statutes to prosecute stealthers in Florida, “As of yet, that statute does not exist,” said Tampa Defense Attorney Hunter Chamberlain.

Chamberlain says stealthing, while despicable, could be difficult to prove as a sexual assault, since the sex itself was initially consensual.

“To change this from a legal behavior to an illegal behavior, the legislature or the courts are going to have to further define what consent means,” said Chamberlain.

The study concludes existing laws don't specifically cover stealthing, despite the heightened risk of pregnancy and even public health risk associated with spreading sexually transmitted diseases.

Most we spoke with, agreed with USF student Aubree Segismondi.

If a law doesn’t already exist, she said, “There should be.”

"Now you're pregnant, bitch, I'm out."

What a douche move.

‘I’m not sure this is rape, but…’


And this is how it all begins...

There's no doubt, it's a completely fucked up thing to do, and you're probably a piece of shit if you do it. That said, it's absolutely not rape. Calling things like that "rape", completely devalues the term, and minimizes the experience of ACTUAL rape victims. Can you imagine the conversation? A woman says "One time I was followed on a jogging trail, and then attacked and raped a knife point, so I'm not very comfortable in secluded areas alone" when another woman replies, "I know exactly how you feel, girl! One time, my boyfriend snuck the condom off, when we were fucking!"

That's just a normal weekend night for me.

AnericanFootball -

No mention of the (black) women who tell dudes they're on birth control so they can get child support and welfare

Equally as fucked up, in my opinion.

It's not rape it's stupidity

ABCTT_HeHitsMeBecauseHeLovesMe - There's no doubt, it's a completely fucked up thing to do, and you're probably a piece of shit if you do it. That said, it's absolutely not rape. Calling things like that "rape", completely devalues the term, and minimizes the experience of ACTUAL rape victims. Can you imagine the conversation? A woman says "One time I was followed on a jogging trail, and then attacked and raped a knife point, so I'm not very comfortable in secluded areas alone" when another woman replies, "I know exactly how you feel, girl! One time, my boyfriend snuck the condom off, when we were fucking!"

Yeah I think even statutory rape is a poor term.

non-vasectomy having cuckholds.

Sure but then lying about being on the pill should also be considered as such.

happened to me, thankfully the crazy bitch miscarried. Havent raw dogged since it scared the fuck out of me.

ABCTT_HeHitsMeBecauseHeLovesMe -
AnericanFootball -

No mention of the (black) women who tell dudes they're on birth control so they can get child support and welfare

Equally as fucked up, in my opinion.
Actually, maybe even more fucked up. If some dick head slips the condom off, the woman still has recourse to prevent an unwanted pregnancy, plan b pills, abortion. If a woman lies to a man about birth control, that's it for him, he has absolutely no recourse, and he's done for the next 19 years. Now if you give some woman an std, because you pulled off the condom, that's a different story, and maybe you should face criminal penalty.

if a girl says she agrees to sex but only with a condom and the guy takes the condom off mid-sex and doesn't tell her, I think I'm fine with classifying it as rape. The sex without a condom was not consensual.

Pretty soon we're going to need to sign contracts before having sex.

Fuck it, why not just bring your lawyer to the bar with you as a first line of defense: See if he/she recognizes any of the ladyfare as former plaintiffs.

A guy did this to my gf friend. He is a man whore so she was afraid of catching an std, he had a vasectomy to pregnancy wasnt an issue.

Shitty thing to do, I think it is sort of rapey

ttt

There is a "rape by deception" argument to be had.

I do think there is credence to the perspective that it is one person breaking a condition of having sex, which is what advocates use to push that the sex afterwards is no longer fully consensual.

 

That said, I'm not much of a fan of broadening the definition of criminal acts like rape too much. If taking off a condom without telling a partner is rape, how about lying about being on birth control? How about lying about not having kids? It's a Pandora's Box.

Tim Duncan - A guy did this to my gf friend. He is a man whore so she was afraid of catching an std, he had a vasectomy to pregnancy wasnt an issue.

Shitty thing to do, I think it is sort of rapey

Why is she fucking a man whore? What does that make her. Wow!! 

It's not rape. If you don't want to chance getting pregnant or catching a VD, keep your legs crossed.

What's the point? Long term child support??

Keep your legs closed, you dumb bitches.

 

You weren't raped, you were simply stupid.