Bellator need to get their champs on main card ! Regardless of sex...
iamjohnny - <blockquote>Chris27 - She is right but anyone who followed this story knows why.<br /><br />She has talked shit about the org, the whole them not helping her pay for her surgery or something, said outed them, they said they would, they never did.<br /><br />She was on the mma hour talking shit about the org so this is them saying fuck you.<br /><br />They dont have that div anymore, no plans on another 115 tournament, the div and the belt mean nothing to Bjorn/Bellator. <br /><br /></blockquote><br />Yep. She's had a bad relationship with Bellator from the start and she certainly doesn't make them eager to promote her.<br /><br />I'm a big supporter of WMMA and equality, but I think her attitude with Bellator from the start is part of the problem. She needs to realize WMMA isn't as important to companies like Bellator/Zuffa unless you're a Rousey or Carano. Unless we wake up one day and she's getting movie offers, pulling in 500k ratings....she should learn to not bite the hand that feeds her. <br /><br />Have they given her a raw deal? Yes, but she isn't so innocent either. I know I wouldn't want to promote someone that rarely says anything good about my company, that fights in a division that isn't a ratings draw or priority.
Yeah imo they should just part ways. Let her go to Invicta and make money and get fights and get promoted.
She dont want to be with them, they dont care about promoting her, they arent doing another 115 tournament and I believe she cant even make 115 anymore.
So if they dont want to promote her and if they arent gonna do another tournament then let her go to Invicta.
But they wont because Bjorn is just as spiteful as Dana but people seem to ignore that about Bjorn/Bellator.
WelshWarrior -Bellator need to get their champs on main card ! Regardless of sex...
I agree, but MMA would have to be a sport first. It's run like a sports entertainment brand when you can get title shots after a loss or literally just talk your way into one.
Chris27 -iamjohnny - <blockquote>Chris27 - She is right but anyone who followed this story knows why.<br /><br />She has talked shit about the org, the whole them not helping her pay for her surgery or something, said outed them, they said they would, they never did.<br /><br />She was on the mma hour talking shit about the org so this is them saying fuck you.<br /><br />They dont have that div anymore, no plans on another 115 tournament, the div and the belt mean nothing to Bjorn/Bellator. <br /><br /></blockquote><br />Yep. She's had a bad relationship with Bellator from the start and she certainly doesn't make them eager to promote her.<br /><br />I'm a big supporter of WMMA and equality, but I think her attitude with Bellator from the start is part of the problem. She needs to realize WMMA isn't as important to companies like Bellator/Zuffa unless you're a Rousey or Carano. Unless we wake up one day and she's getting movie offers, pulling in 500k ratings....she should learn to not bite the hand that feeds her. <br /><br />Have they given her a raw deal? Yes, but she isn't so innocent either. I know I wouldn't want to promote someone that rarely says anything good about my company, that fights in a division that isn't a ratings draw or priority.
Yeah imo they should just part ways. Let her go to Invicta and make money and get fights and get promoted.
She dont want to be with them, they dont care about promoting her, they arent doing another 115 tournament and I believe she cant even make 115 anymore.
So if they dont want to promote her and if they arent gonna do another tournament then let her go to Invicta.
But they wont because Bjorn is just as spiteful as Dana but people seem to ignore that about Bjorn/Bellator.
Parting ways would be the best thing. I'm not sure if she would be much happier pay wise, but she at least would be promoted better. Shana Knapp is good people!
iamjohnny -Chris27 -iamjohnny - <blockquote>Chris27 - She is right but anyone who followed this story knows why.<br /><br />She has talked shit about the org, the whole them not helping her pay for her surgery or something, said outed them, they said they would, they never did.<br /><br />She was on the mma hour talking shit about the org so this is them saying fuck you.<br /><br />They dont have that div anymore, no plans on another 115 tournament, the div and the belt mean nothing to Bjorn/Bellator. <br /><br /></blockquote><br />Yep. She's had a bad relationship with Bellator from the start and she certainly doesn't make them eager to promote her.<br /><br />I'm a big supporter of WMMA and equality, but I think her attitude with Bellator from the start is part of the problem. She needs to realize WMMA isn't as important to companies like Bellator/Zuffa unless you're a Rousey or Carano. Unless we wake up one day and she's getting movie offers, pulling in 500k ratings....she should learn to not bite the hand that feeds her. <br /><br />Have they given her a raw deal? Yes, but she isn't so innocent either. I know I wouldn't want to promote someone that rarely says anything good about my company, that fights in a division that isn't a ratings draw or priority.
Yeah imo they should just part ways. Let her go to Invicta and make money and get fights and get promoted.
She dont want to be with them, they dont care about promoting her, they arent doing another 115 tournament and I believe she cant even make 115 anymore.
So if they dont want to promote her and if they arent gonna do another tournament then let her go to Invicta.
But they wont because Bjorn is just as spiteful as Dana but people seem to ignore that about Bjorn/Bellator.
Parting ways would be the best thing. I'm not sure if she would be much happier pay wise, but she at least would be promoted better. Shana Knapp is good people!
What is she making in Bellator? I've only seen one Bellator card payout but other than winning the tournament her regular fights I dont imagine she is making much.
Atleast in Invicta she can fight multiple times a year if healthy, if they move to a TV network she can make money fighting on main cards with sponsors etc.
I'm not sure if Invicta payout was posted before. Can't be much better, but she would get a lot more fights like you said.
Not surprising like Chris27 said. They should just cut out women's tournaments for now. I love that they have wmma fight and I would love to see another tounament and champion. But only if they are commuted and have the depth to continue it and keep it going like their other divisions.
I love the Bellator format and the overall "feel" of their shows. I just wish they would sort out all this champion/contract mess they have.
Till UFC has WMMA... Not many really care...
Nexuscrawlers -Not surprising like Chris27 said. They should just cut out women's tournaments for now. I love that they have wmma fight and I would love to see another tounament and champion. But only if they are commuted and have the depth to continue it and keep it going like their other divisions.
I love the Bellator format and the overall "feel" of their shows. I just wish they would sort out all this champion/contract mess they have.
I'm not into Bellators format and to me their shows feel small, the tournaments arent special because they do so many and they dont include the best fighters in the world.
I think the tournament format is so overrated with hardcore fans. To me its only interesting if its filled with the elite.
If the UFC did a LW tournament it would be awesome, a tournament with Rich Clementi and Dave Jansen isnt special to me.
Plus it limits big fights they can make, you see the inactivity of their champs, FW div is gonna have Pitbull, DS and another winning all waiting with promised title shots.
The format doesnt work and I think you will see when they move to spike they will eventually move away from it.
BrCutter -UGCTT_Gaspare - She's 100% rightYep. Meisha's right about this one.
Agreed
Chris27 -Nexuscrawlers - Not surprising like Chris27 said. They should just cut out women's tournaments for now. I love that they have wmma fight and I would love to see another tounament and champion. But only if they are commuted and have the depth to continue it and keep it going like their other divisions.
I love the Bellator format and the overall "feel" of their shows. I just wish they would sort out all this champion/contract mess they have.![]()
I'm not into Bellators format and to me their shows feel small, the tournaments arent special because they do so many and they dont include the best fighters in the world.
I think the tournament format is so overrated with hardcore fans. To me its only interesting if its filled with the elite.
If the UFC did a LW tournament it would be awesome, a tournament with Rich Clementi and Dave Jansen isnt special to me.
Plus it limits big fights they can make, you see the inactivity of their champs, FW div is gonna have Pitbull, DS and another winning all waiting with promised title shots.
The format doesnt work and I think you will see when they move to spike they will eventually move away from it.
Yes, I know you don't like Bellator, you've made this clear on almost every Bellator thread. That's fine, I like it, it is enjoyable to me. I also think a lot of their format problems get fixed when they can increase their roster size. If each weight has 2-3 tournaments a year the champ is never waiting. tounaments are the way to go imo. The UFC should atleast have rough brackets to organize the divisions. Every legit sport works in some form of tournament format.
I know its not for everyone, but I love Bellator.
Nexuscrawlers -Chris27 -Nexuscrawlers - Not surprising like Chris27 said. They should just cut out women's tournaments for now. I love that they have wmma fight and I would love to see another tounament and champion. But only if they are commuted and have the depth to continue it and keep it going like their other divisions.
I love the Bellator format and the overall "feel" of their shows. I just wish they would sort out all this champion/contract mess they have.![]()
I'm not into Bellators format and to me their shows feel small, the tournaments arent special because they do so many and they dont include the best fighters in the world.
I think the tournament format is so overrated with hardcore fans. To me its only interesting if its filled with the elite.
If the UFC did a LW tournament it would be awesome, a tournament with Rich Clementi and Dave Jansen isnt special to me.
Plus it limits big fights they can make, you see the inactivity of their champs, FW div is gonna have Pitbull, DS and another winning all waiting with promised title shots.
The format doesnt work and I think you will see when they move to spike they will eventually move away from it.Yes, I know you don't like Bellator, you've made this clear on almost every Bellator thread. That's fine, I like it, it is enjoyable to me. I also think a lot of their format problems get fixed when they can increase their roster size. If each weight has 2-3 tournaments a year the champ is never waiting. tounaments are the way to go imo. The UFC should atleast have rough brackets to organize the divisions. Every legit sport works in some form of tournament format.
I know its not for everyone, but I love Bellator.
Never said I dont like Bellator I said I dont like their format.
They wont have it for long you can bet on that. They can spin its fair and its the way to produce true contenders but people dont care about that.
People would have wanted to see Askren/Hieron rematch, Eddie if he beats Aoki gets a rematch vs Chandler, brought in Sandro, he could have fought Warren in a fight people would care about.
Instead they do tournaments and they lose out on fights fans care about. Thats what drives this sport, fights fans want to see, not who the most deserving contender is.
If Kampmann beats Hendricks you have to agree he would be the most deserving WW contender but which fight would fans buy? GSP/Kampmann or GSP/Diaz?
And I dont hate the Belltaor product I've never missed a Bellator show I just think their format is weak and is overrated by hardcore fans who see the word tournament and think its the best thing ever.
A tournament to me is great with top fighters. And having 2-3 tournaments in the same year in the same divs waters it down big time. It will either be filled with the same few fighters in each tournament or filled with prospects. Winning three fights against sub par competition doesnt make you deserving of a title shot.
Ok there is a problem with the UG today. I have skimmed over this entire thread, and not one image of Ms. Tates ass anywhere!
Either you bastards forgot the rules or the internet is broken.
Please explain?
lol @ all the people who talk shit about how the UFC treats its fighters and then praise organizations like Bellator
The way Bellator has handled the entire Zolia situation has been nothing short of pitiful. They really showed their true colors with this.
JerryW - Ok there is a problem with the UG today. I have skimmed over this entire thread, and not one image of Ms. Tates ass anywhere!
Either you bastards forgot the rules or the internet is broken.
Please explain?
you made me choke on an almond, so i had to log in to vtfu
She is so correct its not even funny!
Tate is is good for WMMA!
McBottery -lol @ all the people who talk shit about how the UFC treats its fighters and then praise organizations like Bellator
The way Bellator has handled the entire Zolia situation has been nothing short of pitiful. They really showed their true colors with this.
Yeah im not a fan of Zoila but Bellator is disgraceful.
Now, everyone shut the fuck up and stare.
Zoila's hometown isn't in Ohio, she's from the Central Valley/Fresno. I know she's a Gurgel, but still.
TripVersion01 - Zoila's hometown isn't in Ohio, she's from the Central Valley/Fresno. I know she's a Gurgel, but still.
Well she is and currently lives there now so.