Taxi companies trying to block Uber in Toronto

jeremy hamilton - 
cruedi - when I lived in annapolis years back the taxi drivers were complaining about the hotel shuttle services taking their business. It's nothing new.

Taxi drivers do need to pay "medallion fees" in many cites. It's a way of tracking peoples income so they can't check on their taxes.

Not paying fees makes it easier for uber drivers to make a profit, of course the taxi drivers will fight it.

Nobody is making them be Taxi drivers, why don't they just quit and become Uber drivers if it's so much more profitable?

Nothing I hate more than people making their problems my problem.

When I want something do I get to block everyone and fuck with their lives?

for one thing you have drivers that have all ready paid upward of $500,000 for medallions in places like NYC and SF, do you think they can just walk away from that? Now granted SF decided to waive the $1,000/year fee for medallion holders to level the playing field for current holders.

How would you feel if you followed the rules, paid your fees/taxes ect and someone showed up to compete with you and didn't need to do that? I can't imagine you saying hey I bought this medallion for $700,000 and then this uber thing started, guess I'll just throw this out become an uber driver.

This is a case where cities need to change their old laws on the way taxis are regulated and do their jobs.

cruedi - 
jeremy hamilton - 
cruedi - when I lived in annapolis years back the taxi drivers were complaining about the hotel shuttle services taking their business. It's nothing new.

Taxi drivers do need to pay "medallion fees" in many cites. It's a way of tracking peoples income so they can't check on their taxes.

Not paying fees makes it easier for uber drivers to make a profit, of course the taxi drivers will fight it.

Nobody is making them be Taxi drivers, why don't they just quit and become Uber drivers if it's so much more profitable?

Nothing I hate more than people making their problems my problem.

When I want something do I get to block everyone and fuck with their lives?

for one thing you have drivers that have all ready paid upward of $500,000 for medallions in places like NYC and SF, do you think they can just walk away from that? Now granted SF decided to waive the $1,000/year fee for medallion holders to level the playing field for current holders.

How would you feel if you followed the rules, paid your fees/taxes ect and someone showed up to compete with you and didn't need to do that? I can't imagine you saying hey I bought this medallion for $700,000 and then this uber thing started, guess I'll just throw this out become an uber driver.

This is a case where cities need to change their old laws on the way taxis are regulated and do their jobs.

Why would anyone need to pay 500,000$ a year to drive a car around from place to place?


Also the people paying that much are buying them in a marketplace that goes up and down. They new the price could drop.


NYC cabs are smelly, uncomfortable, they have this annoying "news commercial" thing that plays when you are in the cab, the drivers often will try and get out of taking you places, especially in outer bouroughs, they usually blab constantly on their cell phone ear piece (Against the rules), etc.


Its literally a garbage fucking system of shit.

It would be one think if NYC had clean, courteous cabs of the future....

I am going to combine Uber and Grndr into a hybrid company where you can get a ride in exchange for other services. Phone Post 3.0

Lol  Once UBER drivers figure out the tricks that taxi drivers have used for decades to make more money, they will start doing it too.  Or do you think only benevolent people who want to fix the world drive UBER.

It is bullshit that licsensed taxi drivers have to pay fees and licenses and extra insurance.  Either they all should have to pay or no one should.  Thats why the taxis are protesting.  As is thier right. 

jeremy hamilton - I hate cabs in this city. I am going to figure out how to use Uber now.

I can get a ride with whoever I want and pay them if I want to.

I don't understand getting the Govt involved, is this a communist country?

Am I missing something?

The government is already involved. The taxis are paying government fees for providing the exact same transportation service as Uber. Take all those fees off of taxis and they'll shut up real quick!

White347LX - 
jeremy hamilton - I hate cabs in this city. I am going to figure out how to use Uber now.

I can get a ride with whoever I want and pay them if I want to.

I don't understand getting the Govt involved, is this a communist country?

Am I missing something?

The government is already involved. The taxis are paying government fees for providing the exact same transportation service as Uber. Take all those fees off of taxis and they'll shut up real quick!

Then that is unfair and they do need to remove the fees.

jeremy hamilton - I hate cabs in this city. I am going to figure out how to use Uber now.

I can get a ride with whoever I want and pay them if I want to.

I don't understand getting the Govt involved, is this a communist country?

Am I missing something?


Yes, you are missing quite a lot.  The cab industry is heavily regulated by the government.  As such, it puts a tremendous amount of capital costs to start up a single cab.  Imagine you have one group of drivers that are heavily regulated and must pay an outrageous amount of fees/taxes/charges to the government to get started up.  Suddenly a new driver pulls his car out and doesn't have to pay a dime of those costs.  Which group do you think is going to be cheaper?



 



Is it fair to regulate one group but not the other?



 



Don't think about it just from the consumer standpoint.  Think about all those dopes who had to pay thousands/millions to get a cab up and running in the city.  

The Maestro -
jeremy hamilton - I hate cabs in this city. I am going to figure out how to use Uber now.

I can get a ride with whoever I want and pay them if I want to.

I don't understand getting the Govt involved, is this a communist country?

Am I missing something?


Yes, you are missing quite a lot.  The cab industry is heavily regulated by the government.  As such, it puts a tremendous amount of capital costs to start up a single cab.  Imagine you have one group of drivers that are heavily regulated and must pay an outrageous amount of fees/taxes/charges to the government to get started up.  Suddenly a new driver pulls his car out and doesn't have to pay a dime of those costs.  Which group do you think is going to be cheaper?



 



Is it fair to regulate one group but not the other?



 



Don't think about it just from the consumer standpoint.  Think about all those dopes who had to pay thousands/millions to get a cab up and running in the city.  

But isn't this a classic evolution in supply chain? Horses to trains to trucks to planes... Each complaining that capital investments and regulations made it tough for them to compete when a new channel started gaining momentum... Phone Post 3.0

Evolution, bitches!

Those taxi companies need to go fuck themselves. Phone Post 3.0

Toronto taxis are gross and the service is terrible. Every time I want to pay with credit the machine is broken but then gets miraculously fixed when I tell the driver it's either credit or nothing. Phone Post 3.0

They need to protest the fees, not the Internet. Phone Post 3.0

I think they should level it out between uber and taxis. Lessen the regulations on taxis and increase them on uber.

The problem, of course, is one of insurance. There are several cases going through the courts right now. If you are an Uber driver and don't get business driving insurance, all companies will drop you.

jeremy hamilton -
cruedi - when I lived in annapolis years back the taxi drivers were complaining about the hotel shuttle services taking their business. It's nothing new.

Taxi drivers do need to pay "medallion fees" in many cites. It's a way of tracking peoples income so they can't check on their taxes.

Not paying fees makes it easier for uber drivers to make a profit, of course the taxi drivers will fight it.

Nobody is making them be Taxi drivers, why don't they just quit and become Uber drivers if it's so much more profitable?

Nothing I hate more than people making their problems my problem.

When I want something do I get to block everyone and fuck with their lives?
They can't become uber drivers because they are foreign sacks of shit with abrasive personalities, and drive absolute shit borderline illegal poorly maintained cabs Phone Post 3.0