i dont remember that much about the fight, and cant find a video of it anywhere.
did Rampage slam out of an armbar in the fight? I'm remembering a triangle attempt that he slammed out of, but it seems like it wasnt locked on very tight.
nobody?
i think youre thinking of the arona fight and the henderson bustamante fight
No slams. A close guillotine he pulled out of. A lot of weirdos think Bustamante should have won based on that failed sub. Rampage won all the standup and had Busta limping badly by the end from leg kicks.
Rampage powered out of a lot of submissions.
Very good, close fight. Busta subbed in for Arona and was throwing up some sick armbar attempts. Rampage kept his cool and worked out. One guillotine was dead on and after barely getting out of it Rampage got a minute and change break to re-tie his shorts.
Busta got dropped from some knees and kicks.
Its one of the many great fights that most fans havent seen.
Busta had the better boxing, more sub attempts and was the much smaller guy, he should have gotten the close decision
orcus - No slams. A close guillotine he pulled out of. A lot of weirdos think Bustamante should have won based on that failed sub. Rampage won all the standup and had Busta limping badly by the end from leg kicks.I could never understand why people thought Busta won......and I'm a fan of his...
i think a lot of people are thinking of pride rules how the one closer to ending the fight usually wins,thats why they put a lot on busta's sub attempt.he was impressive though.last minute,a middleweight,and almost pulling the upset.man,i love and miss busta.i hope he retires and ends his career in the ufc.
Very close match Busta had him in alot of trouble... he nearly had a guilitine on a couple of occasions and a few arm bar atempts.... Rampage powered out of all of them.... he was much stronger.
It was a close fight and entertaining.... It showed how Busta can use his bjj to handle an explosive guy like Rampage.
Not counting the guillotine, Rampage won the fight based on damage.
However, Bustamante had that guillotine on TIGHT...Rampage was in serious trouble, but for some reason he was given the opportunity to re-tie his shorts. Normally, it wouldn't be a big deal...but the referee broke the fighters up IN THE MIDDLE OF A SUBMISSION ATTEMPT. WTF??? I think Busta was seriously ripped off in this one.
Good fight. Busta was smaller, older, and subbed in for Arona. Close fight w/ Busta coming ALOT closer to actually finishing, but Rampage eeked it out in the end. Barely.
Rampage barely won against Murilo. Kinda hard to call it a real loss for Murilo. He was would won if his conditioning was a little better
I dont think it was broken up in the middle of the sub attempt. I think Rampage barely got out by crashing them both into the ropes and the second his head got free Busta couldnt capitalize on his weakened state because the ref jumped in.
Shady shit.
Very close but i think Rampage edged it out but Busta was the one who impressed me here being as mentioned the older, smaller and last minute sub in.
Rampage has always been susceptible to subs attempts
The crazy thing is that Rampage fought Randleman not too far behind this fight and Randleman failed to take Rampage down once. Randleman.
And who takes Rampage down? Busta - the smaller BJJ guy.
"Busta had the better boxing, more sub attempts and was the much smaller guy, he should have gotten the close decision"
He did not have the better boxing and he got dropped at least once. Nor was he "much smaller". He weighed in at 205 and contrary to popular belief, Rampage is not a big LHW. At least not in shape. Rampage did more damage by dropping Bustamante and having him limping badly from leg kicks, and was "winning" or "in control" of more of the fight than Murilo was.
" I dont think it was broken up in the middle of the sub attempt"
It wasn't. He was already out of danger when the ref interrupted.
For a match where Busta actually got "robbed", see the second fight with Henderson. Dan lost all but a minute or so of that fight, in all areas (standup, wrestling, and grappling), but because he dropped Busta in those seconds -- never mind that Murilo was totally recovered and back in control by the final bell -- he won the fight. Even worse was Busta's fight on the Yarrenoka show, where he totally tooled the guy for the entire fight except for the one time (again) the guy dropped him. Even then, by the end of the fight Bustamante had mounted him (again) and was going for a sub (one of many) at the bell.
Ha, the infamous Hendo/Busta II GP final fight! I thought Dan made it closer than you described there but yeah, i can def take the call for a Busta win.
Also, very true, Rampage is not a huge LHW. Most people think he is.
I dont understand why people cant look at Wand vs Rampage in Pride, Wand vs Tito in the UFC, Rampage vs Chuck in the UFC or Pride then watch Wand vs Chuck in the UFC and suddenly say, 'oh shit, Wand is so much smaller than Chuck! He must have def been on roids!!!!'
It was Takimoto vs Busta in Yarrenoka iirc.
This is one of the fights I reference for why I dislike the ring for MMA
I can't remember the exact sequence of events, but Rampage was in trouble with the guillotine and clearly dove out of the ropes to stall, then it took forever with the restart, him fixing his shorts, etc which seemed to rob Busta of a lot of momentum
Rampage got out of a lot of subs, and landed some solid leg kicks to win it but I thought it could have gone either way with Pride scoring
Remember too, this was a shady last minute sub in the GP-- supposedly they knew Arona couldn't fight and Busta had been training, then Arona pulled out at the last minute and Rampage had to switch gears to fight Busta on short notice
I remember too Busta was very cautious to avoid getting slammed with his sub attempts, he'd hook rampage's leg each time
"I can't remember the exact sequence of events, but Rampage was in trouble with the guillotine and clearly dove out of the ropes to stall, then it took forever with the restart, him fixing his shorts, etc which seemed to rob Busta of a lot of momentum"
Yeah, the ring fucked it up as always. But I'm not sure how much momentum Busta would have had or why people think Rampage was saved by the ref. He was on top of Busta and had already escaped the guillotine, was it really likely Murilo was going to suddenly sub him? Rampage would undoubtedly just have stood up again.