Tesla blocked from MI with law by dealers and GM

White347LX -
SirPrize - 
Right Hand JO Power - They need to just get a dealership going and move on. Phone Post 3.0
Yeah. I don't understand why they're dead set against using dealerships. Will someone please explain that? Phone Post 3.0

The manufacturer doesn't have to share profits with local dealers. Look at all the employees at any new car dealership. All those paychecks, property taxes, utility bills, construction and maintenance costs are eliminated in the tesla sales model.
These things happen when you start a business in a regulated industry. Not saying I agree with it, but I wouldn't start a brewery or a gun company with a direct to customer sales model, then act surprised when I meet resistance. Phone Post 3.0

SirPrize -
Right Hand JO Power - They need to just get a dealership going and move on. Phone Post 3.0
Yeah. I don't understand why they're dead set against using dealerships. Will someone please explain that? Phone Post 3.0
Because its nothing but dead weight, increasing overhead and consumer cost? Phone Post 3.0

Most states have some form of dealership regulation for consumer protection. Things like lemon law, dealer advertising, deceptive practices, etc. That is why they have met so much resistance in states like texas. Phone Post 3.0

MisterFixit - 
SirPrize -
Right Hand JO Power - They need to just get a dealership going and move on. Phone Post 3.0
Yeah. I don't understand why they're dead set against using dealerships. Will someone please explain that? Phone Post 3.0
Because its nothing but dead weight, increasing overhead and consumer cost? Phone Post 3.0


Service and customer satisfaction are dead weight?



The reason I've purchased the vehicles where I have is because for the same price, they have superior customer service.

Good old western style democracy in action.

 

No wonder we're protesting for it here in Hong Kong!

jettdogg - 
Mushroom Slap - what tripe.

fuck lobbyists and the bought off politicians.

Republican governor's are owned by billionaires. Has a Democrat gov. done their bidding to crush tesla yet? Karl Rove just begged for money from their masters and they responded with more millions. The discussion about who is the party of the ultra rich is over.


" as of June 19, there were 22 individuals on the Open Secrets list who were billionaires. Of those 22 billionaires, 13 -- or more than half -- gave predominantly to liberal groups or groups affiliated with the Democratic Party. The other nine gave predominantly to conservative groups. (A list of billionaires and how much they donated can be found here.)"



From politifact.



Seems like the ultra rich are Democrats.

PatK -
MisterFixit - 
SirPrize -
Right Hand JO Power - They need to just get a dealership going and move on. Phone Post 3.0
Yeah. I don't understand why they're dead set against using dealerships. Will someone please explain that? Phone Post 3.0
Because its nothing but dead weight, increasing overhead and consumer cost? Phone Post 3.0


Service and customer satisfaction are dead weight?



The reason I've purchased the vehicles where I have is because for the same price, they have superior customer service.

I must have missed the part in the law requiring service and customer satisfaction.

Are current Tesla owners complaining?

This law is about pandering to corporate interest and not about Tesla customers. Phone Post 3.0

angryinch -


lol @ anyone who still believes we live in a free country with a free market economy. 

Corruption at its finest. Wonder how much that cost GM. Phone Post 3.0

Sounds like they're just trying to sell a bunch of cars cheap and "as is" so to speak. It doesn't seem like they're very confident in their product if they don't want it sold in stores.

OblongBox -


Sounds like they're just trying to sell a bunch of cars cheap and "as is" so to speak. It doesn't seem like they're very confident in their product if they don't want it sold in stores.

Maybe they don t want to be forced to build a store just to sell their product. Phone Post 3.0

MisterFixit - 
OblongBox -


Sounds like they're just trying to sell a bunch of cars cheap and "as is" so to speak. It doesn't seem like they're very confident in their product if they don't want it sold in stores.

Maybe they don t want to be forced to build a store just to sell their product. Phone Post 3.0


It's more than just a store, it's a place where you can take your vehicle to get serviced by authorized mechanics. Are they gonna skimp on that too? How do you even get to test drive the damn things?

MisterFixit -
PatK -
MisterFixit - 
SirPrize -
Right Hand JO Power - They need to just get a dealership going and move on. Phone Post 3.0
Yeah. I don't understand why they're dead set against using dealerships. Will someone please explain that? Phone Post 3.0
Because its nothing but dead weight, increasing overhead and consumer cost? Phone Post 3.0


Service and customer satisfaction are dead weight?



The reason I've purchased the vehicles where I have is because for the same price, they have superior customer service.

I must have missed the part in the law requiring service and customer satisfaction.

Are current Tesla owners complaining?

This law is about pandering to corporate interest and not about Tesla customers. Phone Post 3.0
The service at dealerships? BWAHAHAHA. Too funny, you damn shill! For every decent dealership service dept there are 9-10 others that are awful. Awful with customer service and often times quality of work.

Further, even the decent dealerships charge a premium that is nothing more than extra profit.

Those that rely on a dealership to do their work are overpaying and could find better service at a different shop.

Lastly, this is really about a watershed event, much like Amazon and books. Once Tesla sells vehicles online and others learn they can cut out a middle man and make more profit? The modern dealership will be DOA.

This scares the shit out of dealerships--hence the pushback. Phone Post 3.0

MisterFixit - 
PatK -
MisterFixit - 
SirPrize -
Right Hand JO Power - They need to just get a dealership going and move on. Phone Post 3.0
Yeah. I don't understand why they're dead set against using dealerships. Will someone please explain that? Phone Post 3.0
Because its nothing but dead weight, increasing overhead and consumer cost? Phone Post 3.0


Service and customer satisfaction are dead weight?



The reason I've purchased the vehicles where I have is because for the same price, they have superior customer service.

I must have missed the part in the law requiring service and customer satisfaction.

Are current Tesla owners complaining?

This law is about pandering to corporate interest and not about Tesla customers. Phone Post 3.0

It's amazing to me that there are people that would actually defend or want a dealership. I can't even...I got nothing.

Do you not know the basics of business? The very basics? What you want would put a middle man which in turn raises prices on the product that you want.

Tesla is trying to give you, the consumer, the lowest price possible.

Yet here you are actually complaining about it.

Wow. I'm still in shock.

Should be national news with protests and fire each official that had anything to do with it, never to serve the public again. Phone Post 3.0

america, home of the free market!

this makes me sick

maybe the problems in michigan are that historically theyve put their eggs in the automakers basket, who fail time and again.  

its time to evolve.  This is a shitty thing to do for a whole lot of reasons.  

Zekolas -
SirPrize -
Right Hand JO Power - They need to just get a dealership going and move on. Phone Post 3.0
Yeah. I don't understand why they're dead set against using dealerships. Will someone please explain that? Phone Post 3.0
Right now they have one model and thier profit margin on the car isn't that much. Car dealerships are just middle men that adds thousands of dollars to a car. Phone Post 3.0
Other companies are free to do away with dealerships as well.

Screw this lack of choice. Phone Post 3.0

OblongBox -
MisterFixit - 
OblongBox -


Sounds like they're just trying to sell a bunch of cars cheap and "as is" so to speak. It doesn't seem like they're very confident in their product if they don't want it sold in stores.

Maybe they don t want to be forced to build a store just to sell their product. Phone Post 3.0


It's more than just a store, it's a place where you can take your vehicle to get serviced by authorized mechanics. Are they gonna skimp on that too? How do you even get to test drive the damn things?

Just let tesla build service stations. Problem solved. Phone Post 3.0

SirPrize - 
OblongBox -
MisterFixit - 
OblongBox -

Sounds like they're just trying to sell a bunch of cars cheap and "as is" so to speak. It doesn't seem like they're very confident in their product if they don't want it sold in stores.

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        <span class="User-164718" id="userPost51230053">It's more than just a store, it's a place where you can take your vehicle to get serviced by authorized mechanics. Are they gonna skimp on that too? How do you even get to test drive the damn things?</span></p>
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<span class="User-164718" id="userPost51230053">Just let tesla build service stations. Problem solved. <img alt="Phone Post 3.0" border="0" src="/images/phone/apple.png" style="vertical-align:middle;" /></span></blockquote>

 

Well if they build a service station, why not just sell cars from there while they're at it? Their position makes no sense at all. It's like they are claiming they don't even need sales techniques to sell their product.

 

Kway - 
MisterFixit - 
PatK -
MisterFixit - 
SirPrize -
Right Hand JO Power - They need to just get a dealership going and move on. Phone Post 3.0
Yeah. I don't understand why they're dead set against using dealerships. Will someone please explain that? Phone Post 3.0
Because its nothing but dead weight, increasing overhead and consumer cost? Phone Post 3.0


Service and customer satisfaction are dead weight?



The reason I've purchased the vehicles where I have is because for the same price, they have superior customer service.

I must have missed the part in the law requiring service and customer satisfaction.

Are current Tesla owners complaining?

This law is about pandering to corporate interest and not about Tesla customers. Phone Post 3.0

It's amazing to me that there are people that would actually defend or want a dealership. I can't even...I got nothing.

Do you not know the basics of business? The very basics? What you want would put a middle man which in turn raises prices on the product that you want.

Tesla is trying to give you, the consumer, the lowest price possible.

Yet here you are actually complaining about it.

Wow. I'm still in shock.


I'm not complaining about anything.



I could care less about Tesla. This doesn't affect me in any way.



I don't agree with what Michigan is doing either.



You do realize that Musk himself has said as the brand grows, he is most likely going to have to go to a franchised dealership model, don't you?



With franchised dealerships, the burden of maintaining stores and employees falls on the franchisee, not the manufacturer. That's a huge burden.



Tesla sold what, under 25,000 cars last year and are selling to a niche market and a small customer base. They don't take trade ins or really offer any service. Their entire profits are based on sales.



Lexus seems to do pretty well. There's a reason why when they introduced the brand in the late 80s that they went with franchises.



If you really have a hard time finding a decent dealership, then you suck donkey dong at buying vehicles.