The Bible/The Zodiac

Has this subject been discussed here? If so, I don't want to rehash an old subject, and I'd be happy to drop the subject.

The many parallels between the Bible and ancient Egyption Astro-theology are very interesting. I don't know alot about it, but if anyone is interested, I have a link to an interesting video and some websites.

Joe, I'm on my way to school, but you should check out this video that Redneck posted...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6751565943189557487&q=jordan+maxwell


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6751565943189557487&q=jordan+maxwell

Here is an article discussing this subject, although nowhere as complete or comprehensive as the video.

http://www.theosophy-nw.org/theosnw/world/christ/xt-preb2.htm

The Bible and the Zodiac
By Donna L. Preble
What is the zodiac? According to the dictionary, it is "an imaginary belt encircling the heavens, extending about eight degrees to either side of the ecliptic, and containing twelve constellations." Actually it is a mathematically arranged map of the sun's influence, including that of the planets, upon the earth and its inhabitants.

Before the birth of Judaism and its stepchild Christianity, the peoples of the world were sun worshipers. From India to Egypt in the East, knowledge of the sun and stars was the basis of religion; and in the then undiscovered West, from the Incas in the Andes to the Zunis in the American desert, all raised their voices in praise to the rising sun.

Not without reason the Persians and Chaldeans were called stargazers, for they knew the sun was Lord of the World and they looked upon the stars as living beings. Their knowledge of astronomy was astonishing, and their knowledge of astrology, which related humanity to the universe, was far-reaching and profound. Nearly every world religion shows the influence of astrology in both its spiritual and physical aspects.

Who were the authors of the Bible, this fine old book, known as The Book of God, or God's Word? What was their inspiration? From the confused accounts of the racial history of the Jewish people, little is known that can be considered reliable. It is speculated, with some reason, that they were migrants from a region of Afghanistan near the Hindu Kush, since Hebrew names and words are still common there. The Pentateuch itself marks its Brahmin origin. But whatever the history of the Jewish people before their captivity by Chaldeans and Egyptians, they had developed racial integrity and a strong sense of unity. Once they regained their freedom, they gathered together in an effort to rebuild their nation. Their aim was to have their own laws, their own scriptures, and their own God.

We know from the text of the Old Testament that it had more than one author and that its parts were written at different times and put together later. We read in Isis Unveiled, II, 470-1:

That, after the first copy of the Book of God has been edited and launched on the world by Hilkiah, this copy disappears, and Ezra has to make a new Bible, which Judas Maccabeus finishes; that when it was copied from the horned letters into square letters, it was corrupted beyond recognition; . . . finally, we have a text . . . abounding with omissions, interpolations, and premeditated perversions.
Whoever Hilkiah or Ezra were, however, we find that the Book of God is largely composed of stories of the zodiac, the sun, and the laws or principles of nature, as they were known to the hierophants and high priests of Egypt and Chaldea, who were well versed in the wisdom-religion taught to humanity in its first conscious state.
The wisdom-religion was expressed, whether by Hindu, Chaldean, or Jew, in the same way -- through figures of speech, in myths, parables, or allegories. There are references to this in the New Testament, where Paul tells the Corinthians that the story of Moses is figurative -- ". . . the veil over his face . . . is untaken away in the reading of the Old Testament" -- and again where Paul tells the Galatians that the story of Abraham and his two wives is an allegory. Paul explains that this is the way it is told to those who do not know.

Whoever they were, the authors of the Old Testament were obviously scholars, presumably high priests, men well aware of the traditions and legends of other peoples all around them for distances of hundreds of miles. It is evident that they drew upon these traditions and legends in writing their scriptures, which were to set forth the alleged history and genealogy of the Jewish people.

It can be said that there is no actual history in the Old Testament, that the people in its pages are not real personages, but that most are symbolic of some phase of the zodiac -- the sun, the twelve signs, or a natural law. Abraham, for instance, was not a Jew, though portrayed as the Father of the Jewish people. He was borrowed from the Chaldeans, inspired by the mighty prince Zeru-an, who was rich in gold and silver, as written in Chaldean annals, and who bears a resemblance to Saturn.

Neither Solomon nor David is historical. David is pure myth, as are the prophets. David was conceived to be the founder of the Jewish dynasty, which through Solomon, his son and successor, acquired identification with the solar deity, giving it preeminence over all mankind. It is possible that the patriarchs were real figures, but even this remains uncertain. Yet let it not be supposed that there is no truth in the Old Testament. The allegories it contains are as truthful and profound in meaning as they are numerous. Also, the Scribes made their allegorical figures into vivid personalities speaking ideas, as often a delight to ponder on as they are edifying.

Although most of the Old Testament has been accepted by fundamentalists as the gospel truth, even they have confessed to doubts about Jonah and the whale. For a man to be swallowed live by a whale and survive to tell the tale was either a Biblical miracle or a bit of fisherman's braggadocio. There have been many attempts to interpret the allegory. However, since most of the main characters in the Bible personify the sun, we can safely assume that Jonah also represents some aspect of the solar orb. Those three uncomfortable days and nights were the winter solstice. Between the twenty-first and twenty-fourth of December the nights are the darkest and longest of the entire year and were known to ancient astrologers as the Whale's Belly. No doubt this has reference to the winter constellation Cetus, the Whale, which is just above the horizon at that time. The 'whale' was, therefore, in a position to swallow Jonah when he, as the sun, plunged into the sea. Thus it was that Jonah, the sun, spent three days and nights in the Whale's Belly, where he meditated on the Lord.

The story of the birth of Moses was transposed from the legend of the Chaldean king, Sargon, one thousand years earlier. At Sargon's birth, his mother the queen placed him in a bitumen-lined basket and laid it among the river bulrushes where a water-carrier found him and took him home and brought him up. In his role as the Jewish lawmaker, Moses was endowed with the dignity and celestial powers of an Egyptian high priest, or hierophants as Thoth, or the Greek Hermes, embodying the mystical wisdom with the astrological and alchemical doctrines and formulae. It is nowhere recorded that anyone ever really saw Moses, yet he was so real to even his creators that his Laws were inexorably upheld, and his teachings unquestioned. All the sacred symbols and knowledge of the Kabbalah, as known to the Jewish high priests, were incorporated into the wisdom of Moses.

His tabernacle in the wilderness was built as a square representing the four cardinal points, as well as the four elements: earth, fire, air, and water. The idea originally was Egyptian, and the genii, or angels, of the elements were said to abide at the points. The lamp ordered "by the Lord" to burn on the tabernacle was an inexhaustible flame, representing the eternal light and life of the sun.

In writing their scriptures and presenting Moses as lawmaker, with Jehovah as the One-True-God, the Jews did not overlook the place the sun held among surrounding peoples. They honored the sun in the allegory of Solomon. To the Jews, Solomon was King of Israel and his temple was built on Mount Moriah, the highest point in Israel, but actually the allegory shows Solomon as Lord of the Universe. He sits on his golden throne in the center of his temple, which is the universe. He is attended by his craftsmen, the lords of the signs of the zodiac, and is instrumental in their activities. Attending him is Hiram, his agent of construction on earth -- architect, master-builder, and beautifier, faithful administrator of the sun on earth. And the building of the temple is finished without hands or the sound of hammer or axe -- the hammer of contention, the axe of division.

Our physical bodies are composed of millions of cells. The life of each cell comes directly from the sun. We are therefore a part of the sun, and we cannot in fact be separated from it. In the allegory of Solomon's temple, the little temple is the human body -- "made in the image." The ancient wise men knew this and called the sun the Lord of the Temple.

The art of presenting and preserving esoteric philosophical principles and ancient truths in figures of speech, and through myths and allegories, was not confined to the Old Testament. The New Testament abounds with them; its most important allegory, basic to its purpose and to the Christian religion itself, is the story of the birth of Jesus. In his book The Secret Teachings of All Ages, Manly P. Hall writes:

Those who chronicled the life and acts of Jesus found it advisable to metamorphose him into a solar deity. The historical Jesus was forgotten; nearly all the salient incidents recorded in the four Gospels have their correlations in the movements, phases, or functions of the heavenly bodies.
In the third century, when the church fathers were consolidating the Christian church, they had no knowledge of the date of Jesus' birth. They chose the date celebrated by the pagans, the winter solstice, when the darkest days give way to the promise of brighter ones. This was incorporated in terms of the zodiac into the story of the birth of Jesus, or the sun. In the late hour of the twenty-fourth of December, the zodiacal sign Virgo, or the Virgin, rests on the horizon or ascendant. At the hour of midnight, the sun enters the sign of Capricorn -- the manger and the goat. Thus is the sun -- Jesus -- born of a virgin, by an immaculate conception.

Later, as the story goes, the constellation of Orion rises in the East. The three bright stars in his belt are the three Wise Men who came from the East to offer gifts to the newborn King. These gifts were the new-old ideas incorporated into the teachings of Jesus, such as "love ye one another," "overcome evil with good," and "your Father and my Father are one," which replaced the old Jewish idea of "an eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth." In the north are the two stars known to the Arabs as Martha and Mary. So are the starry heavens related to the great story. Later in the life of Jesus -- the sun -- the twelve signs of the zodiac become his disciples.

Thus does the zodiac continue in the New Testament, and the four points in the tabernacle of Moses and the four cherubs of Ezekiel's wheels are repeated in the four Gospels or Evangels of the New Testament. In fact, the book of Ezekiel is pure astrology. Ezekiel, in his vision, sees in sublime form the Lords of the signs of the zodiac, the revolving planets, the constellations, and the angels of the four points -- the elements; in Aquarius, the man; Taurus, the ox; Leo, the lion; and Scorpio, the eagle.

Although several centuries had passed since the Jewish Scriptures were written, the presentation of astronomical and philosophical principles by means of the zodiac had not changed. Paul was a Jew, and he was familiar with the Jewish Kabbalah and the science of allegories. It is hardly possible to understand the Old Testament, or the New, without some knowledge of the Jewish Kabbalah, the codebook of symbology. From it one learns the esoteric meaning of the first ten numbers, the twenty-two letters of the Hebrew alphabet, the geometrical triangle, the square, and the circle -- also the esoteric lore contained in the zodiac -- and these are the elements which help one to solve some of the riddles of the Old Testament. Hidden indeed is the meaning of the stories in the Old Testament, even when they are translated into the terms of the zodiac.

Why are the truths of nature so concealed? As Paul wrote in his first letter to the Corinthians, "We speak the wisdom of God in mystery!" To hide the truth, of course, does not change the truth. The sun still shines upon the world as it always has, and always will until the end of its own cycle. It remains the life-giver, supplying the vital energy to every atom, and giving to every human being the power to realize his full potential. We must keep aware of the supreme place of the sun in our lives, in order better to open the way to a greater realization of the truth.

(From Sunrise magazine, December 1974; copyright ? 1974 Theosophical University Press)

Another article....

http://www.near-death.com/experiences/origen13.html

Astrology in the Bible

"There shall be signs in the sun, the moon, and the stars." - Jesus Christ, Luke 21:25

The Bible is filled with references to astrology. This is because astrology was widely accepted as truth in Biblical times. Christians who believe that astrology is Satanic would be surprised to learn that the Bible is filled with astrology and even Jesus himself made numerous references to astrology.

People believed in the study of the stars in Biblical times. Everyone knew the influence of the sun on the earth, and the sun was a star. It certainly made a pattern, so far as life on earth was concerned - it shaped everything, or at least nourished everything - and the shape had to be such as to allow the sun to give life to it.

One of the great astrological stories in the Bible is the story of the star of Bethlehem. It is written that the star was a sign from God signaling the birth of the Messiah into the world. The three Magi, Persian astrologer-kings, determined the time of this birth by the position of this star. In 1600, Johannes Kepler hypothesized that this star was actually a conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn. Confirmed by modern astrology, this symbolism ties in with the prophecies of that era concerning a Messiah amongst the Jews. The conjunctions occurred at the end of Pisces, ruled by Jupiter. Jupiter is the planet of kings. Saturn is the planet that rules the Jews, thereby giving the king of the Jews. This was a very infrequent triple conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn and it occurred in the year 7 B.C.

The following are some of the most interesting Biblical references to astrology.

"I know a person in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the THIRD HEAVEN. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know - God knows. And I know that this person - whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows - was caught up to paradise. He heard inexpressible things, things that humans are not permitted to tell." (2 Cor. 12:1-4)

The phrase, "I know a person," is a euphemism people used in those days to refer to themselves in a humble manner. Paul explained that he was taken to the "third heaven." The phrase, "third heaven," is a reference to the multi-level realms of the afterlife. This is an astrological/religious concept believed by Jews, Christians, Gnostic Christians, Platonists, and other people in those days. A correlation with Paul's third heaven can be found in the Gnostic book entitled "The Apocalypse of Paul."

The Apocalypse of Paul also describes Paul's afterlife visit to the third heaven. It also describes how Paul travels through a hierarchy of heavenly realms all the way to the "tenth heaven."

According to Flavius Josephus, the famed Jewish historian, the Jewish temple at Jerusalem had the twelve signs of the zodiac inlaid in its floor. Josephus also stated that the twelve loaves of showbread in the temple was a reference to the zodiac. In modern times, Israel issued stamps with the zodiac signs identified with the twelve tribes of Israel and the astrological symbolism of the temple.

The Bible states that God made the heavenly bodies to show us "signs" of his intentions. These signs can be read by anyone who knows how to interpret them. Astrology is about interpreting these signs in the motions of the sun, moon, planets, and stars.

"And God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as SIGNS to mark seasons and days and years, and let them be lights in the expanse of the sky to give light on the Earth." And it was so." (Gen. 1:14-15)

"And there shall be SIGNS in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the Earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the Earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory." (Luke 21:25-27)

In the verse above, Christ uses astrology to reveal the "signs" in the sky of his coming.

The Bible states that the first communication from God came from the stars. David writes in his Psalm:

"The HEAVENS declare the glory of God, and the firmament shows his handiwork. Day after day utters his speech and night after night shows his knowledge. There is no tongue or language where their voice is not heard. Their line is gone out through all the Earth and their words to the ends of the world. In them (the heavens) he has set a tabernacle for the sun." (Psalm 19:1-4)

"Can you bring forth the Mazzaroth (the zodiac) in their seasons or lead out the Bear with its cubs? (an astrological constellation)" (Job 38:32)

This Bible verse shows God using astrology to answer Job.

The Bible also describes an astrological sign called the "Morning Star" which is a reference to the planet Venus. The Morning Star, also known as the "light bringer", is also an astrological symbol that functions as a sign for the onset of dawn. It appears as a brilliant "star" at night just before the sun rises and brings light each morning to earth. The greatest function of this "light bringer" is as a symbolic reference to the Messiah who brings the light of God to the people. The Bible also uses the term "Morning Star" as a reference to all sons of God including Lucifer, the "light bearer".

"I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright MORNING STAR." (Rev. 22:16)

"And we have the word of the prophets made more certain, and you will do well to pay attention to it, as to a light shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the MORNING STAR rises in your hearts." (2 Peter 1:19)

"Just as I have received authority from my Father. I will also give him the MORNING STAR." (Rev. 2:27-29)

"How you have fallen from heaven, O MORNING STAR, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the Earth, you who once laid low the nations! You said in your heart, "I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain. I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High." (Isaiah 14:12-14)

"After this, Job opened his mouth and cursed the day of his birth. He said: "May the day of my birth perish ... May its MORNING STARS become dark; may it wait for daylight in vain and not see the first rays of dawn, for it did not shut the doors of the womb on me to hide trouble from my eyes." (Job 3:1-10)

"Where were you when I laid the earth's foundation? ... On what were its footings set, or who laid its cornerstone - while the MORNING STARS sang together and all the angels shouted for joy?" (Job 38:4-7)

In one of the prophetic dreams of Joseph, he saw eleven stars bowing down to his star. The interpretation of this dream was obvious and that was that Joseph's brothers will bow down to him.

"Then he (Joseph) had another dream, and he told it to his brothers. "Listen," he said, "I had another dream, and this time the sun and moon and eleven stars were bowing down to me." When he told his father as well as his brothers, his father rebuked him and said, "What is this dream you had? Will your mother and I and your brothers actually come and bow down to the ground before you?" (Gen. 37:9-11)

Of course, we all know the rest of the story that they indeed had to bow down to Joseph when Pharaoh made him a prince because of his ability to interpret dreams.

Here is an excellent Bible passage that describes the astrological influences on humanity:

"There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under heaven: a time to be born and a time to die, a time to plant and a time to uproot, a time to kill and a time to heal, a time to tear down and a time to build, a time to weep and a time to laugh, a time to mourn and a time to dance, a time to scatter stones and a time to gather them, a time to embrace and a time to refrain, a time to search and a time to give up, a time to keep and a time to throw away, a time to tear and a time to mend, a time to be silent and a time to speak, a time to love and a time to hate, a time for war and a time for peace." (Eccl. 3:1-8)

Astrology refers to every 2160 years as a new "AGE" which is a different sign of the zodiac that comes into position to influence the Earth. The Bible describes events that will occur according to the signs of the astrological "ages".

?And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the AGE.? (Matt. 28:20)

?Anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this AGE or in the AGE to come.? (Matt. 12:32)

?The harvest is the end of the AGE, and the harvesters are angels. As the weeds are pulled up and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the AGE.? (Matt. 13:39-40)

?What will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the AGE?? (Matt. 24:3)

?No one who has left home or wife or brothers or parents or children for the sake of the kingdom of God will fail to receive many times as much in this AGE and, in the AGE to come, eternal life.? (Luke 18:29-30)

?We do, however, speak a message of wisdom among the mature, but not the wisdom of this AGE or of the rulers of this AGE ... None of the rulers of this AGE understood it.? (1 Cor. 3:6-8)

?These things happened to them as examples and were written down as warnings for us, on whom the fulfillment of the AGES has come.? (1 Cor. 10:11)

"[Christ was raised] far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every title that can be given, not only in the present AGE but also in the one to come.? (Eph. 1:21)

?... who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming AGE.? (Heb. 6:5)

?Then Christ would have had to suffer many times since the creation of the world. But now he has appeared once for all at the AGE of the ages.? (Heb. 9:26)

?Just and true are your ways, King of the AGES.? (Rev. 15:3)

All these Bible verses are referring to the end of the AGE of Pisces (the fish, the Church age) and the beginning of the AGE of Aquarius (the water-bearer, Christ).

Jesus was born under the end of the age of Aries (the ram or lamb) and this may explain why he called himself the "lamb of God." By the time Jesus began his ministry, it was the beginning of the age of Pisces (the fish, the Church age). The sign of the fish has special significance to Christianity because the sign of the fish has been known throughout the millennia to be the sign of Christianity. Jesus recruited "fishermen" as disciples to make them "fishers of men." He fed the masses with a miraculous draft of fishes. His followers were know in Latin as "pisciculi", the "little fishes." A commonly used icon in Christian churches is the "Vesica Piscis", which is Latin for "mouth of the fish". Its shape resembles a fish without a tail. It can be seen in the shape of stained glass windows in many churches and cathedrals. The Pope wears a ceremonial hat in the shape of a fish head.

Around the year 2300 A.D., the end of the age of Pisces will occur. The world will then enter a new age, the age of Aquarius (the Water-Bearer). It should be obvious to Christians that the identity of this "Water-Bearer" is the one who (1) came from the waters of Galilee (2) baptized with water (3) changed water into wine (4) walked on the water (5) washed the feet of others with water (6) calmed the ocean waters (7) gives living water (8) says we must be born of water (9) drank the cup from the Father.

Sometime before the age of Aquarius arrives, major earth changes were foretold by Jesus and Cayce to occur. Jesus said that before this happens, there will be wonders in the sun, moon, and stars signaling this coming age of the Christ consciousness. This is a good reason why every Christian should study astrology so that these heavenly signs can be interpreted.

Another astrological reference concerning Christianity deals with the winter solstice which begins on December 21. It is the day of the year when the night is longest and the daytime shortest. The ancient Egyptians noticed that on the autumn equinox, the sun does not set farther south and sets in the same place on the horizon for three days. This is an astrological reference to when the sun (Son) goes down for three days (dies) and then begins to rise again (resurrection). Using the crude instruments available, ancient astronomers were able to detect by December 25th of each year that the daytime had become noticeably longer. This date was chosen, and remains, the traditional date for followers of many different religions to celebrate the "rebirth" of the sun. Following the equinox, each succeeding day has slightly more sunlight than the previous day. It was seen as a promise that warmth would return once more to the earth. Numerous pre-Christian religions honored their gods' birth or rebirth on or about that day.

The ancient Egyptians knew that as long as the sun rose in the morning, life would continue on the Earth. This explains why the Egyptians used the sun as their symbol for the eternal life of the cycle of the seasons. In many Christian churches today, the symbol of the cross with a circle in the center of it appears on church steeples. This icon of the circle as representing the sun, comes from the Egyptian belief that the sun represents eternal life.

In the Book of Revelation, the following symbolism is used to describe the appearance of the Son:

?Behold, he comes with clouds and every eye shall see him.? (Rev. 1:7) The Son (sun) is the ?light of the world? and is seen by everyone.

?The Son (sun) of righteousness arises with healing in his wings.? (Malachi 4:2)

The Egyptian religion held that the Sun of God, Horus, was killed under the sign of Virgo (the virgin) but was resurrected in the age of Leo (the lion). This is why the Egyptians built the Sphinx with the head of a woman (Virgo) and the body of a lion (Leo).

During the days of Moses, the Hebrews were subject to the religion of Egypt. Before the worship of Amen-Ra (God) was instituted, Egyptians worshipped Isis (the Mother of God). When the Hebrews left Egypt and arrived in Canaan, their religion was influenced by the Canaanite religion whose God was named El (the planet of Saturn). The Star of David is a symbol which comes from the ?star? of Saturn (El) which is the planet the ancients used to refer to the Hebrews.

With the influence of the religions of Isis, Ra and El, or:

Is(is) Ra El(Elohim-Lord) or Mother Father Son(Sun)

The Hebrews named their nation Is-Ra-El, or Israel. The Hebrews adopted Saturday (from Saturn?s day) as their day of worship. Christians, whose astrological influence was the sun (also from Egyptian origin), worshipped on Sunday (or the sun?s day).

The story of Jonah (Semetic for "sun") is about a man who is swallowed by a whale (death) and remains in it?s belly for three days at which time the man is freed (resurrection). This story is another symbolic of the astrological account of how the sun remains still for three days during the winter equinox. It is also symbolic of the resurrection of Christ.

When Moses came down from the mountain, he saw the people worshipping a golden calf. This idol came from the Egyptians astrological worship of the sun. Golden represents the color of the sun. The calf (Taurus the bull) represents the age in which the Moses lived when he wrote the Torah. When history moved into the next sign (Aries the ram), the Hebrews celebrated the approach of their Messiah by blowing rams horns. The sign of Aries influenced many religions to adopt the ?lamb of God? concept.

The concept of the zodiac is very ancient, with roots in the early cited cultures of Mesopotamia. Astrology is, more than likely, the oldest religion created by humans. The first twelve-sign zodiacs were named after the gods of these cultures. The Greeks adopted astrology from the Babylonians, and the Romans, in turn, adopted astrology from the Greeks. These cultures renamed the signs of the Mesopotamian zodiac to symbols of their own mythologies. This is why the familiar zodiac of the contemporary West bears names out of Mediterranean mythology.

The concept of reincarnation is a necessary tenet of astrology. The notions of reincarnation and karma together explain why some people are born into lucky circumstances and others into unfortunate conditions. For astrologers concerned with the question of why some people are born into a life of hardship written large across their horoscopes and other people seem to be born under a lucky star, reincarnation and karma prove important explanatory tools to understand divine justice. Reincarnation also provides a framework for explaining why a person has certain personality traits. They are carryovers from past lifetimes.

"There shall be signs in the sun, the moon, and the stars." - Jesus Christ, Luke 21:25

Have you ever read, "Gospel in the Stars"?

It proposes that the chapters of the zodiac actually illustrate the birth, ministry, 1st and 2nd coming of Jesus. It goes into the original names etc.

Virgo is the virgin holding seeds and branches which are both messianic. It ends in Leo, the Lion of the Tribe of Judah.

Here's another article.

http://www.usbible.com/Astrology/bible_dates.htm

Rooster, no, but I believe that book was mentioned in some of the articles in reference.

Yes dogface.

According to the video I posted, most religions are basically a retelling of the Zodiac.

For example.....

The 12 signs of the Zodiac became the 12 apostles.

Horus, the Sun of God, became Jesus, the son of God.

Israel comes from Isis, Ra, and El.

What is the holyground's opinion?

dogface: didnt the zodiac come before the christian story? would that mean the birth, ministry, 1st and 2nd coming actually illustrate the zodiac?

me: the zodiac preceeds the NT but remember that the apostles and Jesus himself used the OT to testify and prove Jesus was the messiah.

That means that from the beginning (Genesis) the bible begins the progessive revelation of predicting Jesus in types and shadows.

For instance, Genesis promises that one day a redeemer would come who would crush the head of the serpant. He would be of "the seed of a woman" a very unique phrase indicating one (a seed, singular) of a woman (generally the term was "seed of a man") so we see a hint of the virgin birth. Also, although He's a man, he's the only man capable of doing what Adam and Eve, the representatives of humanity could not do...crush evil...this is a hint of His dual nature...man and God.

I believe the names of the stars were given to Adam and their meaning became corrupted over time as well as their purpose.

Have you ever stuuuuuuudiedddd it canuck? Why wouldn't that make sense if God made the heavens and if man now worships the zodiak?

"I believe the names of the stars were given to Adam and their meaning became corrupted over time as well as their purpose."

and this is stated where exactly in the bible? I've read genesis and the tale of adam and eve and don't recall seeing this particular story. Sounds like you're just making stuff up here. Are you planning on writing your own book to add to the bible?

oh wait...never mind. You exegesized it from the bible. I got it now.

Can people add new books to the bible if they are really great? Is the story still unfolding?

Maybe one day there will be the book of rooster?

you: and this is stated where exactly in the bible? I've read genesis and the tale of adam and eve and don't recall seeing this particular story. Sounds like you're just making stuff up here. Are you planning on writing your own book to add to the bible?

me: God made the zodiak, named the stars, numbered them, etc. and used them for signs...

Jer 31:35 Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, [and] the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts [is] his name:

Amo 5:8 [Seek him] that maketh the seven stars and Orion,

Psa 147:4 He telleth the number of the stars; he calleth them all by [their] names.

Job 9:8 (The Lord) Which alone spreadeth out the heavens, and treadeth upon the waves of the sea.

Job 9:9 Which maketh Arcturus, Orion, and Pleiades, and the chambers of the south.

Job 38:6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;

Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

Job 38:31 Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion?

ob 38:32 Canst thou bring forth Mazzaroth in his season? or canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons?

Job 38:33 Knowest thou the ordinances of heaven? canst thou set the dominion thereof in the earth?

Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

chance, no, people can right commentaries and supports of principles in the bible but they are not scripture.