Dougie -
Zuffa taxed the sponsors. If you don't think this is a move to make more money than the sponsor tax brought in then you are kidding yourself.
Mik Greg Gote - The sponsor tax killed the sponsors. Befor the sponsor tax, the fighters made in ONE FIGHT what they will make over 2 years of the Reebok deal.No they didn't. Cite me some that did. Especially not big name guys
Dougie -They did that top get rid of sponsors that looked bad. You think the ufc needed the 100k from those couple people that did pay? No. It's a Paywallto keep only blue chip guys.
Zuffa taxed the sponsors. If you don't think this is a move to make more money than the sponsor tax brought in then you are kidding yourself.
RyannVonDoom - What happened to you, casehearts? You used to be someone i could trust.I don't think ufc is trying screw the fighters here but I'm not making assumptions everyone else is.
Mik Greg Gote - The sponsor tax killed the sponsors. Befor the sponsor tax, the fighters made in ONE FIGHT what they will make over 2 years of the Reebok deal.
iVaporize - you should get a new phone that allows you to type more before clicking submit postI can't man its in me now
hendofanforlife -MMALOGIC -King Of All Tenors - ^^^well now those deals are gone, and Viacom will take notice...Viacom could eat the UFC's lunch for them, check their numbers $$
my point is if they have good sponsor deals it's because they are ufc fighters not because they are bellator fighters... so how does becoming a bellator fighter solve the problem?
Probably so you can have 2 million people see your sponsors on cable TV. Something the UFC hasn't had in years.
MMALOGIC -Hahahahahaha yea okay keep holding onto that thoughtKing Of All Tenors - You'll see fighters jump to Bellator and other promotions because some of them have good deals with their clothing sponsors
they have good deals because they're in the UFC not because they're in Bellator.
Dreville79 - Fighters seem happy with it. UG complains. No surprise here.
"Probably so you can have 2 million people see your sponsors on cable TV. Something the UFC hasn't had in years."
SHOTS FIRED.
Phil999 -What does that even mean? You think if a fighter said they weren't happy they'd be cut? You think Zuffa owns a fighters opinion? This isn't 1984 dude and Big Brother isn't watching the fighters, they're happy because they'll be getting paid more. Will it benefit Zuffa too? Of course it fucking will, as a business it should do or there would be no sense to it.Dreville79 - Fighters seem happy with it. UG complains. No surprise here
lol they know what will happen if they are not "happy" with it.
Madrugadao - Thank God someone made a thread about this...If the minimum payment is equal to that of what sponsors were giving out then yes the only issue is numbers. Ziffa controlling is no issue. EVERY OTHER SPORTS LEAGUE is like this.
This is going round and round in circles but it is pretty simple.
None of us know the numbers, so do not know who wins loses etc but for some, the mere fact that Zuffa has total control of another chunk of the money in MMA (particularly one directly relating to already underpaid fighters) is disturbing.
If this does not bother you fine but stop trying to frame the argument as if the only complaint is about imaginary numbers.
"What does that even mean? You think if a fighter said they weren't happy they'd be cut? You think Zuffa owns a fighters opinion?"
Remember when Fitch was of the opinion that he shouldn't have to sign over his lifetime likeness rights for pennies? Remember how he got fired for it, you idiot?
Glovegate - "What does that even mean? You think if a fighter said they weren't happy they'd be cut? You think Zuffa owns a fighters opinion?"Did Okami and Shields put up the same argument? Is that why got cut? No it's because them and Fitch are lay n prayers. And I love a dominant Edgar/Davis style lay n pray clinic. Fucking moron. Unless you work for Zuffa you have no fucking clue why anyone gets cut more than anyone else here
Remember when Fitch was of the opinion that he shouldn't have to sign over his lifetime likeness rights for pennies? Remember how he got fired for it, you idiot?
OP acts like he knows what he talks about. You dont.
caseharts -Lol@you not making assumptions. Youre a fucking retard. You always have been.RyannVonDoom - What happened to you, casehearts? You used to be someone i could trust.I don't think ufc is trying screw the fighters here but I'm not making assumptions everyone else is.
Shiloh - OP acts like he knows what he talks about. You dont.Don't you get that it's my point that none of us do? I think everyone wants this to be better than the pre sponsor tax zuffa. It probably won't be but it will probably be better than the current state.
Shiloh -I'm assuming that they aren't terrible people. I'm giving the uniforms a chance. Everyone else is assuming without any base that fighters are getting screwed. I don't see how butt fuck off. You're just insulting people. You have no substance to an argument you don't even have one.caseharts -Lol@you not making assumptions. Youre a fucking retard. You always have been.RyannVonDoom - What happened to you, casehearts? You used to be someone i could trust.I don't think ufc is trying screw the fighters here but I'm not making assumptions everyone else is.
hendofanforlife -MMALOGIC -King Of All Tenors - ^^^well now those deals are gone, and Viacom will take notice...Viacom could eat the UFC's lunch for them, check their numbers $$
my point is if they have good sponsor deals it's because they are ufc fighters not because they are bellator fighters... so how does becoming a bellator fighter solve the problem?
Probably so you can have 2 million people see your sponsors on cable TV. Something the UFC hasn't had in years.
go ask bellator fighters how that sponsorship thing is working out for them...
And they dont even have a sponsor tax to worry about.
too soon to tell if it's a good deal or not, op is ignorant