The fundamental difference between leftists and rightists

What you just stated not only didn’t refute anything that I said but you also actually indirectly agreed with the statement by stating that rightists were seeking the truth behind the election red flags.

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This is the OG.

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looking at this and denying the election was fraudulent is just dishonest

get fucking real

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Yes, the last US election was stolen. Stolen while they played by the “rules”.

Are you aware of any of that developed country, let alone a superpower, that allows absentee ballots for all and no ID required when voting?

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I disagree. There are groups on both sides of the aisle that are deluded. Both sides also have groups of crazy and aggressive people- not a great combination. I think the real difference is that one groups sees the world the way it is and operates accordingly in an effort to maintain their version of reality and the stats quo. The other side chooses to see the world how they believe it should be and tries to force conformity through de-personing and public outrage. The truth is that both sides have things they are correct about and things they are wrong about.

Our challenge, as citizens, is to recognize that anytime or any place in which one side has an almost monopoly on seats of power, things are not nearly as fair and reasonable as they can and should be. We need a rule of law that ensures places are governed not by all red or all blue, but by a purple blending of both sides in order to ensure a balance between functional reality and our aspirational goals. Instead, we vote for extremists on either side. This is why we fail.

I’m not in an argument on the OG (no good will come of it :slight_smile: I’m rather trying to establish who here (1) number themselves among those who identify as conservative, (2) believe that conservatives notably more so than left/liberals make determinations based on facts, and (3) simultaneously believe the last election (but not the one before it) was stolen. If that’s you, it speaks for itself, or it doesn’t. I have nothing to add beyond those self-identified facts.

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Yes, it did apply.

Sometimes people can overcome blatant cheating. Just like when the Astros lost a few games during their cheating run. Happens.

Address the claim I made in my first post, if you can.

This stolen garbage, yet again.

Here is the difference between both, absolutely nothing. Same shit, different side of the coin that that is it.

Oranos of all people know that he wants nothing but internet points and internet high fives. There is no objective truth to him. The dude still thinks lebanon was nuked and anything he says should be taken with a grain of salt.

No argument here my friend, just wanted to hear your thoughts on the topic I brought up. The topic also shows the difference between facts versus feelings.

Also, conservatives are just as prone to react based on feelings. However, their feelings aren’t given equal time across any form of media, with the exception of podcasts.

Yes, the last US election was stolen. Stolen while they played by the “rules”.

Are you aware of any of that developed country, let alone a superpower, that allows absentee ballots for all and no ID required when voting ?

How can the example of the 2020 election being stolen used by one side while not acknowledging the same reaction from the other side in 2016? Wouldn’t this make this a bad example to use?

lol yeah keep up your copy pasta. If you can not prove it in court of law, which it hasn’t, you can’t say it was stolen by the “rules”. Time to move on, cause your shit stinks.

Mail in ballots have been around for a very long time and when trump loses, NOW it’s an issue. Yeah go fuck yourselves.

Are you aware of any of that developed country, let alone a superpower, that allows absentee ballots for all and no ID required when voting ?

Mail on ballots for every citizen of the state has not.

I’m a centrist, leaning to the left actually.

Do you not see any issues with mass absentee ballots?

Oh fuck, this is gonna be a shit show already.

One’s on the left, the other’s on the right.

Fucking duh!

Really? “A majority”? You hang out in leftist circles. That is why you believe that. The majority do not believe that. But, they do believe that leftists are retards for voting for and absolute dementia ridden puppet.

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I have not personally surveyed ever conservative in the country, but it is what polls indicate. More than half of my friends are conservative, and anecdotally, fwiw, I’ve had the same experience. This is from the socialist rag Forbes, for example

Thinking that there needs to be election reform and that some fuckery was at hand in 2020 does not mean people think the election was “stolen “. Polls and journalists have missed out on the nuance of the situation. If you don’t see that something is wrong with our election process, you’re either dumb or ignorant. Possibly both.