The Left's Mystifying Hatred for Joe Rogan

Just seeing the recent news that a bunch of pussies at Spotify are throwing a tantrum because of the Joe Rogan Podcast. 

First of all I wouldn't really Joe as "right wing". He seems to be very much a centrist. Not a centrist in the childish far-left cartoon of "Oh - it's just someone who is okay with half-racism.." or some other such bullshit. Centrist in the sense of "I think it's better to look at each problem on their own and let logic and my own moral compass create the opinion and not have one given to me by a political affiliation"

I would even say he's probably closer to liberal than right wing - but really it's irrelevant.

The greatest sin he seems to have committed is that he has guests on from all walks of life and asks them questions AND lets them answer. You get a lot of interseting conversations and I can almost guarantee that certain generally left wing topics he's probably made more progress making a case to people on the right side of the political aisle than all of Hollywood. In fact. - I'm wondering if part of the antipathy is due to jealousy because of this. 

This reminds me of something I've discovered on social media. I get in heated arguments on occasion, but rarely am I blocked or cut off from those on the right. It happens - but it's relatively rare. I get blocked all the time by lefties though, for simple transgressions like pointing out what a horrible human being Linda Sarsour is, or defending free speech ideas. 

Their frothing at the mouth over Rogan is in reality shooting themselves in the foot. Jesus - half the people he has on there that they qualify as "Far right" are often "Liberal thinker who doesn't have every exact idea and opinion that I do therefore must be Alt-right" - people like Sam Harris, Brett Weinstein, Jordan Peterson etc.

 
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Anyone politically incovenient is "right wing"

If they didn't need Bill Maher's show, he would be considered "right wing"

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Leftist fascists cannibilize their own

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are the lefties in Canada not like that Robert?

theyve been authoritarian in the US for some time now. Trump is a reaction to them.

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Maybe because he calls it like it is about Biden, California, and the mayors that are allowing their cities to burn to the ground.

You’re either %100 for the lunatics or %100 their enemy. You decide.

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theyve already done this to our universities and most media organizations

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Pro abortion

Pro legalisation

Pro same sex marriage

Has advocated open borders

Endorsed Bernie Sanders in 2016 and 2020

That is now considered so far right that you should be muzzled by big tech. Fucking insane

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ryunz -

Pro abortion

Pro legalisation

Pro same sex marriage

Has advocated open borders

Endorsed Bernie Sanders in 2016 and 2020

That is now considered so far right that you should be muzzled by big tech. Fucking insane

Endorses Bernie

Complains about taxes and leaves California. 

 

he said it himself, don’t look to him as a reliable source of politics. 

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gregbrady - 

are the lefties in Canada not like that Robert?

theyve been authoritarian in the US for some time now. Trump is a reaction to them.

I think there's only a difference in degree, but even then it's pretty close. Most of my friends are Canadian and I've lost a lot of friends over the free speech debate, as well as the right to criticize ALL religions (which means - Islam isn't and shouldn't be protected), and a few others here and there. 

I wouldn't say the left is any more authoritarian than the right, they're just choosing a different flavour. I think people are more quick to recognize authoritarian behaviours in the political side they don't personally adhere to.

This by the way - is one of the reasons why I often argue that it's imperative for the health of both sides to have both sides (well - the full spectrum in reality, but it's so polarized now "both sides" while simplistic is almost true). It's harder to see your own faults in thinking due to very natural bias then it is for someone who opposes you. 

People that only care about another person’s politics are hateful, miserable humans that need to be purged from humanity.

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ryunz -

Pro abortion

Pro legalisation

Pro same sex marriage

Has advocated open borders

Endorsed Bernie Sanders in 2016 and 2020

That is now considered so far right that you should be muzzled by big tech. Fucking insane

Other than Sanders you just described a large section of libertarians as well, and for decades...have you seen how the left reacts to them?

Rand Paul might be the most hated man after trump currently by the left.  The man has done nothing but call our foreign policy bad, called for the end of the drug war, the patriot act, no-knock raids, etc.

Doesnt matter.  Hes been shot at, beaten, and set upon by a mob for his efforts the left wing supposedly agrees with.

DaveFu - 

Anyone politically incovenient is "right wing"

If they didn't need Bill Maher's show, he would be considered "right wing"

I think a lot already do consider Maher right wing, I wasn't aware they needed the show though (not disagreeing - just unaware of the value the show provides for the left).

This knee jerk response they have ends up leading to some horrific journalism too. Cathy Newman's interview of Jordan Peterson was both emblematic of this and a joke, not because Cathy wasn't smart (she is), but because she thought she had done her research on Peterson. The problem is that most of the work critical of Peterson is self-referential blog posts and hit pieces. The whole interview was "Why do you believe X?" followed by "I don't believe X, here's what I believe" and it was clear she had no idea who she was talking to because she thought he fit into the convenient box she was shown earlier. 

robert bentley - 
gregbrady - 

are the lefties in Canada not like that Robert?

theyve been authoritarian in the US for some time now. Trump is a reaction to them.

I think there's only a difference in degree, but even then it's pretty close. Most of my friends are Canadian and I've lost a lot of friends over the free speech debate, as well as the right to criticize ALL religions (which means - Islam isn't and shouldn't be protected), and a few others here and there. 

I wouldn't say the left is any more authoritarian than the right, they're just choosing a different flavour. I think people are more quick to recognize authoritarian behaviours in the political side they don't personally adhere to.

This by the way - is one of the reasons why I often argue that it's imperative for the health of both sides to have both sides (well - the full spectrum in reality, but it's so polarized now "both sides" while simplistic is almost true). It's harder to see your own faults in thinking due to very natural bias then it is for someone who opposes you. 

RB im in toronto and I’ll be your friend LOl

androb - 
robert bentley - 
gregbrady - 

are the lefties in Canada not like that Robert?

theyve been authoritarian in the US for some time now. Trump is a reaction to them.

I think there's only a difference in degree, but even then it's pretty close. Most of my friends are Canadian and I've lost a lot of friends over the free speech debate, as well as the right to criticize ALL religions (which means - Islam isn't and shouldn't be protected), and a few others here and there. 

I wouldn't say the left is any more authoritarian than the right, they're just choosing a different flavour. I think people are more quick to recognize authoritarian behaviours in the political side they don't personally adhere to.

This by the way - is one of the reasons why I often argue that it's imperative for the health of both sides to have both sides (well - the full spectrum in reality, but it's so polarized now "both sides" while simplistic is almost true). It's harder to see your own faults in thinking due to very natural bias then it is for someone who opposes you. 

RB im in toronto and I’ll be your friend LOl

*cue "Happy Together" by the Turtles* lol

ryunz - 

Pro abortion

Pro legalisation

Pro same sex marriage

Has advocated open borders

Endorsed Bernie Sanders in 2016 and 2020

That is now considered so far right that you should be muzzled by big tech. Fucking insane

the mob makes no assessment of the totality of your viewpoints, though. the hard left has also made it clear that your intentions don’t matter. all that matters is how your words or actions made somebody feel right now.

if anything liberals need more people like rogan, mahr, harris, etc that talk about issues like real human beings and have the clout to not give a shit about the mob and to outright tell them to fuck off.

liberals need 100x more of them in media, politics, academia, etc.

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I hope Spotify tells their staff to piss off. Grow up already. Every time you give in to these SJW's you prolong the agony for everyone. 

A problem I have with Rogan (and people like him) is that he is too agreeable with differing political views. For instance, he doesn't realize that even if he agrees that addiction and homeless are problems in California, the elected leaders need to deal with it before it becomes the public health problem it is now. It is one thing to talk about it but action must be taken. His recent move to Texas is the case of bringing your problems to another area and wondering why it goes to SHIT in 10 years. Check out the Tim Kennedy interview on 9/11 where he gives Joe and his hired help new carry pistols. Then Tim told them to enjoy Austin but don't turn it into the place they left. An old joke from my area is that Californian's love it here until the first time they have to shovel snow and realize they never bought gloves or boots. 

Overall I still enjoy Joe's podcasts. He has worked hard and gotten better this year. There is always a good variety of guests from all walks of life and hopefully that continues. 

Rogan is obviously a “White Nationalist”.

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ryunz - 

Pro abortion

Pro legalisation

Pro same sex marriage

Has advocated open borders

Endorsed Bernie Sanders in 2016 and 2020

That is now considered so far right that you should be muzzled by big tech. Fucking insane

the mob makes no assessment of the totality of your viewpoints, though. the hard left has also made it clear that your intentions don’t matter. all that matters is how your words or actions made somebody feel right now.

if anything liberals need more people like rogan, mahr, harris, etc that talk about issues like real human beings and have the clout to not give a shit about the mob and to outright tell them to fuck off.

liberals need 100x more of them in media, politics, academia, etc.

I agree with most of what you are saying… .but to me he’s a target by the internet’s hard left because, although he brings on interesting and apolitical guests a lot, he also brings on far right scammers and doesn’t challenge the dumb things they say. So he is either knowingly or unknowingly providing a huge platform to their lies, conspiracies, misinformation, and targeted hate of specific groups.

Guys like Stefan Molyneux are professional political grfters spouting easily verifiable lies that go totally unchallenged by Joe, and that is fucking dangerous to society. Radicalized right wing psychopaths do things like shoot up churches and mosques, or go on wild killing sprees in public because they are convinced of an SJW socialist mooslim pedo takeover of western society. They get those ideas from groups that Joe pretends are just good guys who are misunderstood.

It is infuriating to to some people to watch him bring on Ben Shapiro or Gavin McInnis and pretend there is no legtimate problem about their rhetoric, despite the violence carried out in the name of their misinformation, and he will just accept a lot of their bullshit spin and made up stats at face value, or downplay their lies later on when attacked for having them on.

Rogan is not left wing or whatever the right likes to pretend. He’s basically anti-political, and, at most a libertarian in his views. Only modern conservatives believe “politics” are only about the 8 issues Fox News harps on: Guns, abortion, taxes, legalization, gay marriage, etc.

The comparison to Maher is a good one in some respects, and both unfairly eat shit from the far left sometimes, and have accurate critcisms of out-of-touch liberal elites, but Maher and whoever makes up his panel that night would chew Shapiro and Molyneux to pieces for their 6th grade “logic”,“facts” and comebacks. Exactly what happened when Bill brought on Milo. While Rogan would never challenge any of them seriously, Bill and his guests definietly do. That’s the major difference IMO.

The problem with Rogan is that he reminds me of a meathead douchebro who wants so bad to be an intellectual but does not have the capacity or intellect to do so. Not really a knock on him, but what this means is that he just forms his opinons and parrots whatever a previous guest stated without their depth. He doesn’t years of considered and reasoned positions so he is easily swayed by whatever personality is on his show and is like a ship in the ocean bouncing one way and then they other. When he brings on “controversial” guests, he doesn’t have the academic background and training to be able to ask good questions and counter stuff. I appreciate being exposed to various viewpoints but he sometimes brings on “experts” that are not considered experts in their field and then promotes their positions.

Also his responses sometimes are just cringeworthy douchebag responses. But I enjoy some of his guests.