The solution: 1 strike = lifetime unrevokeable ban

The only two ways to motivate people to follow rules are financial incentives/penalties or fear of consequences.

The only legal way to remedy the CESSPOOL of drug abuse that the UFC has become is for the athletic commissions to invoke a zero tolerance policy.

Any test whether before or after a fight, months out from a fight, WHENEVER, that turns in a positive result for ANY banned substance should be met with an automatic lifetime ban from the sport.

Literally, ZERO tolerance.

See how many "oh everyone does it" responses you get then.

Make breaking the rules a legit risk to someone's career and livelihood and see how that changes things.

This 100%

BUT Zuffa is veryuch like the honey badger - they ain't care! Money needs to be made Phone Post 3.0

What about when you take protein powder that you didn't know was mostly steroids?

GenericAmerican - What about when you take protein powder that you didn't know was mostly steroids?
wat Phone Post 3.0

Signed Phone Post 3.0

That would do it Phone Post 3.0

Won't happen IMO.

Zuffa will put people in the cage who will generate PPV buys.

Is anyone surprised that Diaz tested hot for weed? Zuffa CAN'T be, but they don't give a shit because Diaz = PPV buys.

Silva could have been a surprise, but now they can cash in on the "road to redemption" theme as Silva valiantly works himself back into everyone's good graces.

IMO Zuffa will only go with the recommendations of the commission so they can keep their show ponies in the game.

Yes and thats why this still isnt a real, legitimate sport.

Its currently "two wealthy heirs and their friend from high school present: Drug addicts wrestle-boxing for points"

Yes harsher penalties. That'll solve it. That's why the death penalty is such a great deterrent. Oh wait... Phone Post 3.0

HELWIG - 


Yes and thats why this still isnt a real, legitimate sport.



Its currently "two wealthy heirs and their friend from high school present: Drug addicts wrestle-boxing for points"


What are all these "legitimate" sports that have a "1 strike = lifetime unrevokable ban" policy for its athletes?

The reverse solution is actually far better.

Pride never die!

HELWIG - 


The only two ways to motivate people to follow rules are financial incentives/penalties or fear of consequences.



The only legal way to remedy the CESSPOOL of drug abuse that the UFC has become is for the athletic commissions to invoke a zero tolerance policy.



Any test whether before or after a fight, months out from a fight, WHENEVER, that turns in a positive result for ANY banned substance should be met with an automatic lifetime ban from the sport.



Literally, ZERO tolerance.



See how many "oh everyone does it" responses you get then.



Make breaking the rules a legit risk to someone's career and livelihood and see how that changes things.


No doubt man, I hear you.

OR, they allow all fighters to just go balls to the walls, juiced to the gills, hopped up on any and all substances of their liking, to fight to. the. death! Jones railing 8-balls in between rounds, Diaz toking up, Overeem eating horse meat at the weigh-ins, etc.

I think that'd move some needles.

GenericAmerican - What about when you take protein powder that you didn't know was mostly steroids?
Isn't that what happened to Wanderlei Silva? Phone Post 3.0

I don't think the UFC wants the PEDS gone because otherwise you'd have fighters retiring at 32 instead of 40. They have enough trouble as it is building stars and can't afford losing guys at peak popularity. Boxing thrived for years in the past with guys being done in their early thirties, so it can be done.

Dead President - This 100%

BUT Zuffa is veryuch like the honey badger - they ain't care! Money needs to be made Phone Post 3.0


Yup.



Lorenzo and Dana could stand up tomorrow and have a press conference saying, "You test positive, you're done."  They set the rules within their own company after all.  But they won't and will continue to act like they are completely prevented from doing anything.

I don't think professional sports want PEDs out of their sport, they want to make it seem that way for PR. Phone Post 3.0

So it's not a legitimate sport but the NFL is because they are drug free? Phone Post 3.0

epwar - 
Dead President - This 100%

BUT Zuffa is veryuch like the honey badger - they ain't care! Money needs to be made Phone Post 3.0


Yup.



Lorenzo and Dana could stand up tomorrow and have a press conference saying, "You test positive, you're done."  They set the rules within their own company after all.  But they won't and will continue to act like they are completely prevented from doing anything.


In all honesty its probably because they know how bad for business that could potentially be for them in the end. It would be like shooting themselves in the foot to ban their top fighters, for life.

HELWIG - 


The only two ways to motivate people to follow rules are financial incentives/penalties or fear of consequences.



The only legal way to remedy the CESSPOOL of drug abuse that the UFC has become is for the athletic commissions to invoke a zero tolerance policy.



Any test whether before or after a fight, months out from a fight, WHENEVER, that turns in a positive result for ANY banned substance should be met with an automatic lifetime ban from the sport.



Literally, ZERO tolerance.



See how many "oh everyone does it" responses you get then.



Make breaking the rules a legit risk to someone's career and livelihood and see how that changes things.


It has to be done. Also time to ramp up the testing. Any fighter under ufc contract should get tested in the off season even when not signed for a fight one failed test never fight again.

How about converting their wins into losses? None of this no-contest crap.