The sport without peds

Without peds do you think mma is going to start reverting back to tma? The style of the sport has evolved to one of constant attack, pressure, and volume because peds allowed the fighter to maintain that output. What now when fighters simply can't sustain that anymore?. Do we get kung fu, do we see aikido for the first time?

Constant attack, pressure, and volume? Looks like you are describing the style of the Diaz brothers, who most likely aren't PED users.

So no.

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Nick and Nate do not fight like Brock jones and Mendelez. They are not look for those transitions and takedowns like their competitors. I don't remember last time they did a gandp

No, it will just mean more injuries, much shorter careers, and a much worse off sport

ALL professional sports juice, the UFC is fucking over their people for some perceived moral stand, it's insane

We have this OBSESSION with controlling other people Phone Post 3.0

Let them juice.

Fvck them cheaters.

No one forces a fighter to fight. Go get a regular job if your only alternative is to cheat.

Agree the quality of fights will lower,
But once clean fighters get a good run, fight quality will improve through innovation
And improved training. Phone Post 3.0

Akston - No, it will just mean more injuries, much shorter careers, and a much worse off sport

ALL professional sports juice, the UFC is fucking over their people for some perceived moral stand, it's insane

We have this OBSESSION with controlling other people Phone Post 3.0
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Akston - No, it will just mean more injuries, much shorter careers, and a much worse off sport

ALL professional sports juice, the UFC is fucking over their people for some perceived moral stand, it's insane

We have this OBSESSION with controlling other people Phone Post 3.0

No more as a reaction to the intense public scrutiny over the last ten years. People don't care about testing in nfl and nba. They do care about testing in the ufc

Doem -
Akston - No, it will just mean more injuries, much shorter careers, and a much worse off sport

ALL professional sports juice, the UFC is fucking over their people for some perceived moral stand, it's insane

We have this OBSESSION with controlling other people Phone Post 3.0

No more as a reaction to the intense public scrutiny over the last ten years. People don't care about testing in nfl and nba. They do care about testing in the ufc
Fuck people, they don't have to live with the injuries, shortened careers, fatigue, and loss of income Phone Post 3.0

Kiai Master vs Touchbutt for the 170 title, NYE 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEDaCIDvj6I

With no PED's you'll get this:

 

http://cdn.mmaweekly.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Royce-Gracie-Kazushi-Sakuraba-K1USA.jpg

Mutant -
Akston - No, it will just mean more injuries, much shorter careers, and a much worse off sport

ALL professional sports juice, the UFC is fucking over their people for some perceived moral stand, it's insane

We have this OBSESSION with controlling other people Phone Post 3.0
I agree with this 100% but the only reason the ufc cared was they were selling the company. If they were staying in this usada bullshit would never have been Instituted. It's pretty much ruining the sport. A lot of people on here are naive thinking fighters will stop it will push them to better scientists. Phone Post 3.0
100% Phone Post 3.0

Maybe more fights go to decision?

MMA has been around long before the NHB days of UFC. (Pankration, Jeet Kune Do, Vale Tudo) The UFC gave TMA a platform to become what MMA is today with a simple question of "Which discipline is best?"

IMO, the resurgence of MMA vs TMA was Ken vs Royce (one and two). Both known as pioneers of the UFC and for PED use. Ken was expected by most to dominate the tournament, even though UFC I was basically a Gracie challenge in Vale Tudo. Ken got choked out because he didn't know wtf a gi was. II, UFC V suerfight, Ken neutralized Royce in what many people who look back would say is a boring, uneventful fight which lasted 36 minutes..

Modern MMA was born in those 36 minutes. Not because of the juice a 170 lbs or 205 lbs man may have been on. The evolution came from understanding, respecting your opponent's strengths and weaknesses as well as your own. That knowledge will not be unlearned.

Hard to say if there may be more judges decisions or not but when you're hungry and looking at a clock, you're going for the bread and butter. Wrestling and BJJ kicked this shit off.

Akston - No, it will just mean more injuries, much shorter careers, and a much worse off sport

ALL professional sports juice, the UFC is fucking over their people for some perceived moral stand, it's insane

We have this OBSESSION with controlling other people Phone Post 3.0

shorter careers? Like Dan Severn? He didn't start in the sport until his mid 30's and won over a hundred fights.


I say careers would be longer since long term steroid use will kill you eventually.

fighters will start figuring it out. MMA has been a rebel sport since the start. It's now becoming a "real" sport. As fighters keep getting popped, others will learn to be "clean" and train smarter.

Look at the other major sports, players are getting popped but not as frequently. MMA will have growing pains but in a few years this will not be a problem. 1st year of something major like this is very difficult.

cruedi - 
Akston - No, it will just mean more injuries, much shorter careers, and a much worse off sport

ALL professional sports juice, the UFC is fucking over their people for some perceived moral stand, it's insane

We have this OBSESSION with controlling other people Phone Post 3.0

shorter careers? Like Dan Severn? He didn't start in the sport until his mid 30's and won over a hundred fights.


I say careers would be longer since long term steroid use will kill you eventually.

Partly my point, you don't have ped you fight efficiently or you burn out. Was watching a Val tudo documentary where one of the fighters talked about choosing you punches and pulling back because of the risk of breaking your hand.

Balls Mahoney -

Let them juice.

Da juice is worth da squeeze!!! Phone Post 3.0

MMA has been pussified into more a sport than fighting.

The reason I got interested in this sport years ago was because I wanted to know who the baddest dude on the planet was IN FIGHTING. I could care less what a fighter injests, injects or if he is sticking his fingers out (ala bones Jones) when he throws a jab. This is fighting and I want to know who is the best.

cruedi -
Akston - No, it will just mean more injuries, much shorter careers, and a much worse off sport

ALL professional sports juice, the UFC is fucking over their people for some perceived moral stand, it's insane

We have this OBSESSION with controlling other people Phone Post 3.0

shorter careers? Like Dan Severn? He didn't start in the sport until his mid 30's and won over a hundred fights.


I say careers would be longer since long term steroid use will kill you eventually.
Steroids kill you? BRB going to try to find the studies that talk aboit it Phone Post 3.0