The ‘Sweet Science’ - The UG’s Boxing Thread!

pharochuck - 
Barry_BondsMVP -

Who would you choose in a fight between the Floyd that destroyed Gatti, or the Floyd that out boxed and embarrassed Canelo?

The Floyd that beat Canelo. That was a master class 

Interesting to think that Floyd did that to a light heavyweight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTECmBZFSB4&

Floyd knew it would be easy work after watching Canelo struggle to beat Trout. And they made Canelo lose a couple extra pounds to make double sure. 

Canelo definitely learned from that loss and has been getting better since 

pharochuck -
Barry_BondsMVP -

Who would you choose in a fight between the Floyd that destroyed Gatti, or the Floyd that out boxed and embarrassed Canelo?

The Floyd that beat Canelo. That was a master class 

Yea I think so too, one of his best performances.

Barry_BondsMVP - 

Canelo definitely learned from that loss and has been getting better since 

I sort of see Loma/Teofimo the same way. It’s a low risk fight for Teofimo because Loma can’t put a career changing beating on him and if he loses he can be gracious and say he didn’t have the experience. He also gets to learn from a master like Canelo did and hopefully incorporates some of what he learned.

TzTinkle -
Barry_BondsMVP - 

Canelo definitely learned from that loss and has been getting better since 

I sort of see Loma/Teofimo the same way. It’s a low risk fight for Teofimo because Loma can’t put a career changing beating on him and if he loses he can be gracious and say he didn’t have the experience. He also gets to learn from a master like Canelo did and hopefully incorporates some of what he learned.

Yea Teo and Haney would both benefit from loses to Loma. That’s if they can mentally bounce back from it. I can see someone like Ryan Garcia not being able to bounce back from a defeat, especially with all this hype he’s getting.

Jimmy Thunder passed away https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/combat-sports/119476529/boxer-jimmy-the-thunder-peau-dies-aged-54-after-brain-surgery&ved=2ahUKEwiF64mt9cznAhXTu54KHXaWBKkQFjAVegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw22LcOd2Pdy36LMUC5SP-rR

tbi0904 -

Floyd knew it would be easy work after watching Canelo struggle to beat Trout. And they made Canelo lose a couple extra pounds to make double sure. 

Still Floyd was giving up significant size, youth strength. Canelo is highly skilled, strong, solid puncher. Floyd still had to be nearly perfect and he was. Flawless performance that night. 

Rest In Peace to Jimmy Thunder. He was a regular on Tuesday night fights and always entertaining 

pharochuck -
tbi0904 -

Floyd knew it would be easy work after watching Canelo struggle to beat Trout. And they made Canelo lose a couple extra pounds to make double sure. 

Still Floyd was giving up significant size, youth strength. Canelo is highly skilled, strong, solid puncher. Floyd still had to be nearly perfect and he was. Flawless performance that night. 

 Now the Floyd that beat Gatti was still a real KO threat. He could still punish guys. By the time he fought Canelo, Floyd was almost just going through the motions (angles, feints, movement, etc). He was on point with his boxing, but not taking any risks or trying to inflict any real damage. He was in a more business type mode. Gatti was about the last fight where Floyd was trying to punish someone to prove something. Both versions were very good. I just liked the younger, lighter Floyd. He was a scary guy. Money Mayweather was safety/money first, not really trying to win anyone over or making fans, just Ppv buys.

pharochuck -
tbi0904 -

Floyd knew it would be easy work after watching Canelo struggle to beat Trout. And they made Canelo lose a couple extra pounds to make double sure. 

Still Floyd was giving up significant size, youth strength. Canelo is highly skilled, strong, solid puncher. Floyd still had to be nearly perfect and he was. Flawless performance that night. 

No doubt but the Canelo that struggled with Trout was easy work for Floyd's talent, especially draining Canelo down to 152. Floyd's team did a great job with that one.

Canelo lost to Lara 

SandBlaster -

Canelo lost to Lara 

I had Lara winning the first half of the fight, but Canelo took over and more importantly in the championship rounds Canelo was trying to win. The fight was too close for Lara to cruise the last few rounds. Just my opinion of course. 

boxing wiz -
pharochuck -
tbi0904 -

Floyd knew it would be easy work after watching Canelo struggle to beat Trout. And they made Canelo lose a couple extra pounds to make double sure. 

Still Floyd was giving up significant size, youth strength. Canelo is highly skilled, strong, solid puncher. Floyd still had to be nearly perfect and he was. Flawless performance that night. 

 Now the Floyd that beat Gatti was still a real KO threat. He could still punish guys. By the time he fought Canelo, Floyd was almost just going through the motions (angles, feints, movement, etc). He was on point with his boxing, but not taking any risks or trying to inflict any real damage. He was in a more business type mode. Gatti was about the last fight where Floyd was trying to punish someone to prove something. Both versions were very good. I just liked the younger, lighter Floyd. He was a scary guy. Money Mayweather was safety/money first, not really trying to win anyone over or making fans, just Ppv buys.

Also remember Floyd walked around 147-150. So when he fought guys at 130-140 they were same size. When he fought Ortiz Floyd was 148 in the ring Ortiz was 165

lord only knows what Canelo actually weighed in the ring. Outside of jmm and Judah, every fight at 147 Floyd was giving up at least 10 solid pounds in weight. Even without the brittle hands, he wasn't going to get very many knockouts at 147 and was going to have to box safety first 

physically too small at that weight to impose himself physically. He's a small frame guy for welter 

Barry_BondsMVP - 

Canelo definitely learned from that loss and has been getting better since 

Papa proud of little boo boo

williepep -
Barry_BondsMVP - 

Canelo definitely learned from that loss and has been getting better since 

Papa proud of little boo boo

Very much so 

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pharochuck -

Rest In Peace to Jimmy Thunder. He was a regular on Tuesday night fights and always entertaining 

Wow just read that.  Saw a lot of him in Australia.  RIP.

Any of the UK guys on here hear why Callum Smith turned down a Canelo fight?