The truth about Askren's "reaction".

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Freeze video at 1:47.Ben did not initiate the the double.It was just a reaction that anyone would have had if they were walking forward a suddenly a guy came sprinting towards you and began to jump.Anyone’s normal reaction would be duck!!!As a grappler, it’s duck and reach. No way he could have prevented impact.

Thought this thread would be about Ben's fencing response after the knee impact.

I disagree, I feel like id cover up....or atleast sidestep

Interesting. I did not see the fight live [on vacation in Bamahas] but saw replay and wasn't sure if he shot or not. I know many think Askrens style is boreing but i'm always impressed when a specialist can impose their will on more well rounded fighters. Like Maia when he was on that great run or Lesner when he was champ. Increadable move by Masdival.

I disagree, you need to side step, or attempt to get out of the way. 

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I disagree, you need to side step, or attempt to get out of the way. 

Unless you are a Ninja or can foresee the future, that is difficult to do when you are already in forward motion. Remember, we are talking about “1 second” to react, as you are in mid-step forward.

Most people would flinch and bring their arms to their face as they duck.

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Interesting. I did not see the fight live [on vacation in Bamahas] but saw replay and wasn't sure if he shot or not. I know many think Askrens style is boreing but i'm always impressed when a specialist can impose their will on more well rounded fighters. Like Maia when he was on that great run or Lesner when he was champ. Increadable move by Masdival.

Even Maia and Lesnar have more striking ability than Askren.

head low is vulnerable to kicks and knees

low head could end up in KO in many different ways

head low against a sprinting masvidal is just sick...he was training that move and it had a lot of power...that is a comfortable haymaker for him....the anti predictable grappler- wildman knee

 

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Interesting. I did not see the fight live [on vacation in Bamahas] but saw replay and wasn't sure if he shot or not. I know many think Askrens style is boreing but i'm always impressed when a specialist can impose their will on more well rounded fighters. Like Maia when he was on that great run or Lesner when he was champ. Increadable move by Masdival.

Even Maia and Lesnar have more striking ability than Askren.

Honestly I think Ben has the worst stand up in the last 15 years .Jake shields might be the closest that I've seen to that bad 

Disagree. He always fucking shoots. He shot. Jorge predicted it and the rest is history

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Interesting. I did not see the fight live [on vacation in Bamahas] but saw replay and wasn't sure if he shot or not. I know many think Askrens style is boreing but i'm always impressed when a specialist can impose their will on more well rounded fighters. Like Maia when he was on that great run or Lesner when he was champ. Increadable move by Masdival.

Even Maia and Lesnar have more striking ability than Askren.

Honestly I think Ben has the worst stand up in the last 15 years .Jake shields might be the closest that I've seen to that bad 

Jake Shields looks stiff and awkward with his stand up, but he's actually very experienced with his own striking game.

He has gone toe to toe with guys who are vastly better at striking like GSP and Woodley.

It's only been recently, at 40 years old, that Jake has been caught clean with standing strikes at range.

he`s semi athletic he could have dove to the side.

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Thats fukin illegal -
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jpm995 -

Interesting. I did not see the fight live [on vacation in Bamahas] but saw replay and wasn't sure if he shot or not. I know many think Askrens style is boreing but i'm always impressed when a specialist can impose their will on more well rounded fighters. Like Maia when he was on that great run or Lesner when he was champ. Increadable move by Masdival.

Even Maia and Lesnar have more striking ability than Askren.

Honestly I think Ben has the worst stand up in the last 15 years .Jake shields might be the closest that I've seen to that bad 

Jake Shields looks stiff and awkward with his stand up, but he's actually very experienced with his own striking game.

He has gone toe to toe with guys who are vastly better at striking like GSP and Woodley.

It's only been recently, at 40 years old, that Jake has been caught clean with standing strikes at range.

Did you just call Jake Shields decent striker? 

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jpm995 -

Interesting. I did not see the fight live [on vacation in Bamahas] but saw replay and wasn't sure if he shot or not. I know many think Askrens style is boreing but i'm always impressed when a specialist can impose their will on more well rounded fighters. Like Maia when he was on that great run or Lesner when he was champ. Increadable move by Masdival.

Even Maia and Lesnar have more striking ability than Askren.

Tell me what Jorge has to lose by fighting him again then.

nowaydo -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNnPidvWPrg&start=107
Freeze video at 1:47.Ben did not initiate the the double.It was just a reaction that anyone would have had if they were walking forward a suddenly a guy came sprinting towards you and began to jump.Anyone's normal reaction would be duck!!!!!As a grappler, it's duck and reach. No way he could have prevented impact.

Who’s anyone? And as an experienced pro MMA fighter, Masvidal was counting on that grappler’s reaction. Its called strategy.

It would have been a lot more “shit happens” if Masvidal would have timed it as a counter to Ben’s shoot ala Romero/Weidman but when someone runs at you, a flying knee is the only thing that can happen - maybe a flying sidekick like Werdum. But no one runs at you to punch you like that. Ben’s reaction is exactly what did him in.

Knees to counter leg shots are also integral to MMA. Khabib’s dad teaches to always keep your head on the outside when you shoot because of it. Weidman also was aware of this and shoot with his head outside against Romero for most of the fight but the one time he put his head inside, Romero took it off.

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Thats fukin illegal -
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jpm995 -

Interesting. I did not see the fight live [on vacation in Bamahas] but saw replay and wasn't sure if he shot or not. I know many think Askrens style is boreing but i'm always impressed when a specialist can impose their will on more well rounded fighters. Like Maia when he was on that great run or Lesner when he was champ. Increadable move by Masdival.

Even Maia and Lesnar have more striking ability than Askren.

Honestly I think Ben has the worst stand up in the last 15 years .Jake shields might be the closest that I've seen to that bad 

Jake Shields looks stiff and awkward with his stand up, but he's actually very experienced with his own striking game.

He has gone toe to toe with guys who are vastly better at striking like GSP and Woodley.

It's only been recently, at 40 years old, that Jake has been caught clean with standing strikes at range.

Did you just call Jake Shields decent striker? 

Shields was absolutely a decent striker. Very effective for someone who used grappling as their primary weapon.