... is the reason why the U.S. economy is in the gutter. All you people defending the UFC, saying "business is business" need to get your heads out of your collective asses. There is something to be said for morality, honestly, and fairness in business. It's sad so many U.S. business men, including Dana White, have forgotten this. Asking someone to sign their likeness away for LIFE is just wrong. Firing them when they refuse to do so is even worst.
This will, hopefully, hurt the UFC more than they realize.
You have no idea what the contract clauses say yet.
it says FOR LIFE.
thats enough right there. anything for life on a cotract is fucking retarded.
Shiloh - it says FOR LIFE.Good, so Shilo has a copy of the contract. Please post it for the rest of us.
thats enough right there. anything for life on a cotract is fucking retarded.
It's not that it's okay or praiseworthy, it's that it's understandable for any business to try and get as much as it can out of its employees. If the employees don't like it they can work elsewhere. If the business cannot get the employees it needs because of these terms, the terms will change. It's really pretty simple.
Do you get up in arms when an athlete's (or actor's or any kind of employee) agent tries to get all kinds of ridiculous salaries, bonuses, perks, etc in his contract? Do you think it's wrong for them to ask so much of their employers? I don't. They can ask for whatever they want. If their employer feels they're worth it, they might get it. If not, they can choose to accept the lesser offer, or they can see if someone else will meet their terms.
It works both ways.
Its ok in the name of business when Zuffa does something, when another org or the fighters use business tactics, they dont seem to get the backing off everyone like UFC does.
Granpa - ... is the reason why the U.S. economy is in the gutter. All you people defending the UFC, saying "business is business" need to get your heads out of your collective asses. There is something to be said for morality, honestly, and fairness in business. It's sad so many U.S. business men, including Dana White, have forgotten this. Asking someone to sign their likeness away for LIFE is just wrong. Firing them when they refuse to do so is even worst.
This will, hopefully, hurt the UFC more than they realize.
absoloute truth here. in a sport like this where people are risking everything is it too much to ask that the organization should be fair to them. it is a real adolescent mentality to even attempt to justify what the ufc is doing
thanks gramps.... monday morning QB the U.S. economy .....
...would it be a stretch to guess you voted for Obama because McCain opposed MMA a decade ago too...
" I personally don't do business with people like that."
That's fine, and that's the choice every consumer, employee, and employer make all the time. Is this particular agreement/product giving me enough of what I want to be worth my time/service/money/investment?
I just don't get the emotional response as though it's evil. I have no doubt Zuffa, like everyone else, is hurting in this economy. PPVs are likely down, live gates will go down. They need to find revenue where they can. Fitch is a good fighter, but he is also a highly paid fighter and not a draw. He can't beat the champ, but can and has beat everyone else. His management is a pain to deal with. Now he won't sign something that his employers need? Is it really a shock, or "evil", that Zuffa would decide to cut him loose?
It's not America.
It's CAPITALISM.
And it's fucking shit.
Hojack, I mentioned the UFC for obvious reasons. We are in an MMA board, and the topic of the day was the UFC's strong-arm tactics to get fighters to fight unfair contracts. Obviously the UFC isn't the only company to behave this way.
Dommyracer2 is most correct. Capitalism is ultimately destined to fail just like communism for much the same reasons. The idea that wealth trickles down is a fallacy.